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#81
Quote by Spambot_2
Are they even Seventy80's in the MG412 cab?
My old MG had custom designed speakers.

Anyway I didn't say it would have sounded good, just they wouldn't have been damaged.



Thanks. Didn't want to waste space and money on a bass cab.
#82
^ no offense, but that MG cab kinda WAS a waste of money.
The wood's cheap MDF, who knows if it's void free, and these speakers are plain bad.

Plus, a decent bass cab will sound better than any guitar cab when you're playing a bass.
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#83
What all tubes can be safely switched out and rebiased for a different model tube?
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#84
For the most part, you can use any of the common preamp tubes (12AT7, 5751, 12AX7) interchangeably.

For power tubes, there are way too many variables to type them all out here. What amp are you talking about and what were you looking for? Many modern amps like your Mark V can use 6L6GCs or EL34s.
#85
Quote by Roc8995
For the most part, you can use any of the common preamp tubes (12AT7, 5751, 12AX7) interchangeably.

For power tubes, there are way too many variables to type them all out here. What amp are you talking about and what were you looking for? Many modern amps like your Mark V can use 6L6GCs or EL34s.


I mean power tubes. Since its most common I guess I'd say, if I had a Marshall plexi/Fender twin or something that had EL34s/6l6s, what could I replace those with?

Like I hear sometimes about people switching out EL34s for KT88s.
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#86
It depends on the individual amp. You can't just say that a 6L6 can be replaced by an EL34. In some amps it can, in others it cannot. For example, you could not replace the 6L6s in a Twin Reverb with EL34s, but you could use either of those power tubes in a Mark V. Even more confusingly, you may or may not be able to use 6L6s in a Plexi, depending on the power supply of the particular Plexi you had. Most Plexis probably could but there are some that could not use a 6L6. So again, I can't just tell you "X tube = Y tube" because it doesn't work that way. It's particular to the amp, not the tube. That's why I asked what amp you were asking about, because you cannot answer that question without specifying the operating parameters of the amp the tubes are going in.
#87
Quote by Roc8995
It depends on the individual amp. You can't just say that a 6L6 can be replaced by an EL34. In some amps it can, in others it cannot. For example, you could not replace the 6L6s in a Twin Reverb with EL34s, but you could use either of those power tubes in a Mark V. Even more confusingly, you may or may not be able to use 6L6s in a Plexi, depending on the power supply of the particular Plexi you had. Most Plexis probably could but there are some that could not use a 6L6. So again, I can't just tell you "X tube = Y tube" because it doesn't work that way. It's particular to the amp, not the tube. That's why I asked what amp you were asking about, because you cannot answer that question without specifying the operating parameters of the amp the tubes are going in.


That's more what I wanted to know, if it varies form amp to amp.

Anyway, next question, since you made me think of it.

Opinion on Mesa Boogie tubes?
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#88
You mean the ones they sell? Or which ones to put in the amp?

The ones they sell are just rebranded JJs and Sovteks. There's no point in paying extra for Mesa to silkscreen their logo onto them. Tung-Sol (slightly brighter) or JJ (darker) are good for power tubes, some people like SED/Winged C but I don't know if the price difference is worth it on a Mesa power amp, they're running so cold anyway.

Preamp tubes are a lot more subjective but generally I think Sovteks are kind of crappy and EHX are usually too muffled for most preamps. Usually you can use Sino/Shuguang for all the preamp tubes except V1 and then use either a JJ or a Tung-Sol or a Mullard RI, depending on what you like. Getting a few different brands to try in V1 is cheap, and then you have backup tubes anyway.
#89
You can normally stick 6L6's in an EL34 amp, but not t'other way around. They may not perform so well because of screen resistor differences but sometimes they will. As Colin said, it depends on the amp.
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#90
Hi,

I need some help in buying a new multi-fx procesor - the Zoom G2.1Nu I've had before broke down beyond repair, so I need some help in buying a new one.
Some information to help you:
1. I mostly play heavy metal, although I also play a variety of genres. I am a live player.
2. The multi-fx processor I am looking for must cost under CAD$320.00, be able to drop-tune my guitar using some kind of a pitch shifter, be made of durable material, and must be from the Long & McQuade store. (I live in Canada)
3. Zoom Factory in Quebec no longer makes replacement parts for their products.
The processors I'm looking into right now include: Boss ME-80, Zoom G5 and Zoom G3X. Which one of these do you think works best, or is there another processor that works better than this?

Thank you very much for your help!
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#91
Do you guys know if Laney make two different versions of the Cub 2x12 cabinet?

This one has Laney branded HH speakers, but this one is advertised with a pair of 50w Celestions.

Or are the speakers in the first one just a rebranded version of the Celestions in the second one?

Or am I being dumb & missing something?
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#92
They're different speakers.
Laney used to use Rocket 50s, but they dumped them at some point in favor of their new HHs, so the newer cub's have HHs.
Dunnow about the sound quality though.

I have a curiosity myself now:
do anyone of you guys know what the tubes in blackstar HT-1's and HT-5's are for?
Apart from advertising, of course
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#93
I think at some point recently Laney changed from Celestions to HH in their cheaper cabs, yeah. I think Laneys used to be loaded with HHs (don't quote me on that) and then bought the brand name or something like that recently.

I haven't tried either but I kinda suspect either speaker would need to be swapped eventually, ideally.

^ yeah the 12ax7 is in the preamp and the 12bh7 is the power amp. alongside a shedload of ss shenanigans as well, of course.
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#95
Quote by parhelia_0000
Hi,

I need some help in buying a new multi-fx procesor - the Zoom G2.1Nu I've had before broke down beyond repair, so I need some help in buying a new one.
Some information to help you:
1. I mostly play heavy metal, although I also play a variety of genres. I am a live player.
2. The multi-fx processor I am looking for must cost under CAD$320.00, be able to drop-tune my guitar using some kind of a pitch shifter, be made of durable material, and must be from the Long & McQuade store. (I live in Canada)
3. Zoom Factory in Quebec no longer makes replacement parts for their products.
The processors I'm looking into right now include: Boss ME-80, Zoom G5 and Zoom G3X. Which one of these do you think works best, or is there another processor that works better than this?

Thank you very much for your help!


Unfortunately I know nothing about Zoom, but I can say from what little I've read about them that they're probably way better than Boss ME anything, in terms of amp models at least.
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#96
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No problem

I mean, I know that rocket 50s pretty much have the rep of being the absolute worst 12" celestion there is (at least in the retail lineup and ignoring "designed by celestion" guff in cheapo amps). And HH speakers hardly have the best rep either.
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#97
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No problem

I mean, I know that rocket 50s pretty much have the rep of being the absolute worst 12" celestion there is (at least in the retail lineup and ignoring "designed by celestion" guff in cheapo amps). And HH speakers hardly have the best rep either.

Not actively shopping at the moment anyway, but I'm tempted to get the Harley Benton 212 Vintage that gets recommended a lot sometime later this year. Saw that Laney cab & thought it could be a good buy, I'm not a speaker expert so figured Celestions are Celestions and from a brand image perspective Laney > Harley Benton. Will stick with the original plan if/when I get around to shopping.

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Unfortunately I know nothing about Zoom, but I can say from what little I've read about them that they're probably way better than Boss ME anything, in terms of amp models at least.

Definitely agree with this. Had the ME50 & most of the drives were unusable, but my Zoom G3 is a great little pedal. (Won't comment specifically on Boss's amp models, that was a new addition on later units).

Worth noting that the G1 & G2 are budget pedals and pretty poor, the G3/5/7 are on a par with Line 6 pedals. Zoom generally have a reputation of making cheap crap, but they seem to be trying to move into the slightly more premium market. The G1 & G2 are a hangover from their budget ranges, the G3 and above are significantly better.
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#98
Quote by Offworld92
Unfortunately I know nothing about Zoom, but I can say from what little I've read about them that they're probably way better than Boss ME anything, in terms of amp models at least.


I don't know about Zoom either. I do know that the Boss has horrible amp simulations (I've owned it). I saw that the store you mentioned carries Line6. You should call to inform how much they charge for the Line 6 Pod HD 400, or if they carry the 300. Those have very decent amps and effects.
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#99
Quote by Dave_Mc
^ yeah the 12ax7 is in the preamp and the 12bh7 is the power amp. alongside a shedload of ss shenanigans as well, of course.
But how in the damn world do you make 5w of power with a double triode, relatively low gain preamp tube?
I mean 5w!
My amp has to use an EL84 to get to 5w!
I mean the blackstar has 9 out of 10 an A/B power amp, though 5w seems a lot to me.

Also, do you know more specifically what kinda stuff the 12ax7 and the lotsa transistors do?
I'm kinda trying to discover that in detail but I can't interpret schematics for shit
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Not actively shopping at the moment anyway, but I'm tempted to get the Harley Benton 212 Vintage that gets recommended a lot sometime later this year. Saw that Laney cab & thought it could be a good buy, I'm not a speaker expert so figured Celestions are Celestions and from a brand image perspective Laney > Harley Benton. Will stick with the original plan if/when I get around to shopping.
The G212 vintage is a nice score if you can cope with the v30's brightness.
I mean they are pretty damn bright speakers.

If you like darker stuff you may wanna look into some Jet City cab maybe.
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#100
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But how in the damn world do you make 5w of power with a double triode, relatively low gain preamp tube?
I mean 5w!
My amp has to use an EL84 to get to 5w!
I mean the blackstar has 9 out of 10 an A/B power amp, though 5w seems a lot to me.

Also, do you know more specifically what kinda stuff the 12ax7 and the lotsa transistors do?
I'm kinda trying to discover that in detail but I can't interpret schematics for shit
The G212 vintage is a nice score if you can cope with the v30's brightness.
I mean they are pretty damn bright speakers.

If you like darker stuff you may wanna look into some Jet City cab maybe.

A 12BH7 being a twin triode you can run one in A/B for 5 watts no problem. An EL84 has only one pentode so using one you are limited to class A which is less efficient. You are confusing "gain" (distortion) with actual power output. A 12AX7 will get you more distortion but a 12BH7 will get you a lot more output wattage. The 12BH7 is the last stage before the output transformer, so Blackstar isn't using any trickery there to increase the output. It's an honest 5W by industry standards.

The preamp, however, is another story.
The 12AX7 in the HT5 is buried in the preamp. The input gain stage is SS, then another one after that (two different chips, one for each channel; the overdrive is definitely from a chip, it's just a little tubescreamer type clipping circuit in there) and then you get to the actual tube. There's two gain stages (one per triode) there, and then it hits three more ICs: one for amplification, one for the EQ driver, one for the FX loop driver. Then there's a SS recovery stage, and a SS phase inverter before the 12BH7 power tube. Long story short, this thing has chips out the ass and the preamp tube is there to make you feel better.

So the topology is basically like this (on the OD channel) : SS input > SS overdrive > tube amplification > SS amplification > SS phase inverter > tube power. The ICs for stuff like the FX loop and the EQ are sort of understandable, but the SS overdrive and first gain stage seem dumb to me, and make me think that the tube is doing absolutely nothing. They could have used it for the first gain stage so you could OD the front end properly, and then use the second half for at least some of the gain from the OD channel, but instead they just dumped it in the middle of a bunch of chips that I suspect are doing the lion's share of the actual amplification and tone shaping.
#101
Quote by Offworld92
Unfortunately I know nothing about Zoom, but I can say from what little I've read about them that they're probably way better than Boss ME anything, in terms of amp models at least.

Quote by GaryBillington
Definitely agree with this. Had the ME50 & most of the drives were unusable, but my Zoom G3 is a great little pedal. (Won't comment specifically on Boss's amp models, that was a new addition on later units).

Worth noting that the G1 & G2 are budget pedals and pretty poor, the G3/5/7 are on a par with Line 6 pedals. Zoom generally have a reputation of making cheap crap, but they seem to be trying to move into the slightly more premium market. The G1 & G2 are a hangover from their budget ranges, the G3 and above are significantly better.

But is it really worth getting a Zoom only to have it end up like the G2.1Nu I've had before? As I've mentioned before, it's worth noting that the Zoom G2.1Nu I used to own was deemed unrepairable because the factories in Quebec no longer produce its replacement parts.
Also, if the amp sims are horrible, I can just keep the preamp on clean and use the Distortion section for gain sounds, right? Note that I am mainly looking for three things (although multi-effects are the way to go for me): Cost-effectiveness, polyphonic pitch shifter, and durability.
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I don't know about Zoom either. I do know that the Boss has horrible amp simulations (I've owned it). I saw that the store you mentioned carries Line6. You should call to inform how much they charge for the Line 6 Pod HD 400, or if they carry the 300. Those have very decent amps and effects.

Long & McQuade no longer carries Line 6 POD HD 400 nor 300. Also, the Line 6 products unfortunately do not have the polyphonic pitch shifters I am looking for.
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#102
Quote by parhelia_0000
But is it really worth getting a Zoom only to have it end up like the G2.1Nu I've had before? As I've mentioned before, it's worth noting that the Zoom G2.1Nu I used to own was deemed unrepairable because the factories in Quebec no longer produce its replacement parts.
Also, if the amp sims are horrible, I can just keep the preamp on clean and use the Distortion section for gain sounds, right? Note that I am mainly looking for three things (although multi-effects are the way to go for me): Cost-effectiveness, polyphonic pitch shifter, and durability.

No experience of needing replacement parts, but I do know that as soon as you touch the G3, you can feel it's better built than the G2. The G2 is a budget level unit, designed for absolute beginners. The G3 and above are in a whole different league.

I rarely use the amp sims, 95% of the time my G3 sits in my amps loop & is used for modulations & delays. However, times when I need to practice quietly I plug in some headphones, use the drives & sims and they sound fine.

I also have a friend who has had 2 Zoom G7s. He bought his first to experiment with effects, then decided he'd switch to individual pedals and sold it. After experimenting with individual pedals for a while, he bought a second one because he preferred the sounds he got using his G7.

The G3 that I own and the G7 my mate has are both very well built (so I assume the G5 is as well), it has a pitchshifter (although as it's controlled by the expression pedal you'll need at least the G3x) and as they're a fully functional effects unit, USB interface, looper and drum machine, they're certainly cost effective.
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#103
Quote by Roc8995
A 12BH7 being a twin triode you can run one in A/B for 5 watts no problem. An EL84 has only one pentode so using one you are limited to class A which is less efficient. You are confusing "gain" (distortion) with actual power output. A 12AX7 will get you more distortion but a 12BH7 will get you a lot more output wattage. The 12BH7 is the last stage before the output transformer, so Blackstar isn't using any trickery there to increase the output. It's an honest 5W by industry standards.

The preamp, however, is another story.
The 12AX7 in the HT5 is buried in the preamp. The input gain stage is SS, then another one after that (two different chips, one for each channel; the overdrive is definitely from a chip, it's just a little tubescreamer type clipping circuit in there) and then you get to the actual tube. There's two gain stages (one per triode) there, and then it hits three more ICs: one for amplification, one for the EQ driver, one for the FX loop driver. Then there's a SS recovery stage, and a SS phase inverter before the 12BH7 power tube. Long story short, this thing has chips out the ass and the preamp tube is there to make you feel better.

So the topology is basically like this (on the OD channel) : SS input > SS overdrive > tube amplification > SS amplification > SS phase inverter > tube power. The ICs for stuff like the FX loop and the EQ are sort of understandable, but the SS overdrive and first gain stage seem dumb to me, and make me think that the tube is doing absolutely nothing. They could have used it for the first gain stage so you could OD the front end properly, and then use the second half for at least some of the gain from the OD channel, but instead they just dumped it in the middle of a bunch of chips that I suspect are doing the lion's share of the actual amplification and tone shaping.


This is awesome, I have always wondered this exact thing, especially the part about if you can properly boost an HT with a Tubescreamer or not.

Apparently not. Knowing all of this makes it even more egregious than I had previously thought to market these amps as all tube. They're practically hybrids in the most classic definition!

Quote by parhelia_0000
But is it really worth getting a Zoom only to have it end up like the G2.1Nu I've had before? As I've mentioned before, it's worth noting that the Zoom G2.1Nu I used to own was deemed unrepairable because the factories in Quebec no longer produce its replacement parts.
Also, if the amp sims are horrible, I can just keep the preamp on clean and use the Distortion section for gain sounds, right? Note that I am mainly looking for three things (although multi-effects are the way to go for me): Cost-effectiveness, polyphonic pitch shifter, and durability.

Long & McQuade no longer carries Line 6 POD HD 400 nor 300. Also, the Line 6 products unfortunately do not have the polyphonic pitch shifters I am looking for.


No, everything having to do with distortion is awful on cheap Boss digital units. There's some usable tones in the GT stuff, but having owned a GT-10, I'd probably still take a gamble on a Zoom.

Question, why does it have to be new? Can't you use eBay or Craigslist or something like that?

And at this point you may want to make a whole new thread. I know there are some people who are knowledgeable about Zoom stuff around here who may not come into this tread.
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#104
Quote by GaryBillington
No experience of needing replacement parts, but I do know that as soon as you touch the G3, you can feel it's better built than the G2. The G2 is a budget level unit, designed for absolute beginners. The G3 and above are in a whole different league.

I rarely use the amp sims, 95% of the time my G3 sits in my amps loop & is used for modulations & delays. However, times when I need to practice quietly I plug in some headphones, use the drives & sims and they sound fine.

I also have a friend who has had 2 Zoom G7s. He bought his first to experiment with effects, then decided he'd switch to individual pedals and sold it. After experimenting with individual pedals for a while, he bought a second one because he preferred the sounds he got using his G7.

The G3 that I own and the G7 my mate has are both very well built (so I assume the G5 is as well), it has a pitchshifter (although as it's controlled by the expression pedal you'll need at least the G3x) and as they're a fully functional effects unit, USB interface, looper and drum machine, they're certainly cost effective.

Just so you know, the reason why I've shown concern for the replacement part issue was because I tend to be so paranoid about what would happen if my unit was to fail and meet the same fate as the G2.1Nu. I tend to feel a bit uncomfortable when it comes to taking a chance in having something that you know won't have replacement parts by the time you need repairs.
Having said that, I am planning to test out both the Boss ME 80 and the Zoom G5 (or the G3X if the G5 is already sold) to see which one would best fit for me. After all, it's a matter of taste, right?
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No, everything having to do with distortion is awful on cheap Boss digital units. There's some usable tones in the GT stuff, but having owned a GT-10, I'd probably still take a gamble on a Zoom.

Question, why does it have to be new? Can't you use eBay or Craigslist or something like that?

And at this point you may want to make a whole new thread. I know there are some people who are knowledgeable about Zoom stuff around here who may not come into this tread.

From my personal experience, used equipments generally have shown internal and/or external defects and lacked a sense of reliability. The used Line 6 POD X3 Live I've seen in the store had wobbly (and possibly unstable) switches and a missing knob.
Also, I did initially make a new thread on this but the results were tied between people who voted for Boss and those who voted for Zoom before people began to ignore my thread. I'd rather not repost the thread as I do not wish to risk getting the thread locked or getting banned. (Please forgive me if I am wrong on the policies.)
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#105
^ is there any way you can buy one, try it for a couple of weeks and return it if you're not satisfied?

i've found that most multi-Fx in the same exact price range have similar quality.
so maybe go for one, see if you like the tones best, and if the quality isnt there, then you'll know when it's delivered.
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#106
Quote by jj1565
^ is there any way you can buy one, try it for a couple of weeks and return it if you're not satisfied?

i've found that most multi-Fx in the same exact price range have similar quality.
so maybe go for one, see if you like the tones best, and if the quality isnt there, then you'll know when it's delivered.

The return policy only works if there is a factory defect, but it probably won't work if you are selling it back just because you don't like it. Having said that, I am allowed to do a test run on the multi-fx processors in the store before I buy it. That's why I plan to do a comparison between the Zoom G3X and the Boss ME-80 once the ME-80 gets delivered into the store from the manufacturing factory.
From what I've heard, Boss effects are more durable while Zoom products tend to have a better clarity in sound. I just don't know which to choose, so that's why I've asked the UG community for help.
EDIT: P.S. I also tend to be a bit aggressive when it comes to using guitar effects.
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#107
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#108
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don't hijack threads. if you need your questions answered, make your own post.

???

I clearly asked a question before that. Also, I had no intentions whatsoever in hijacking threads. It was just a simple nice gesture I've added after my question.

If there was any confusion, I apologize, but I had no intentions whatsoever in any way to hijack this thread.
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#109
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???

I clearly asked a question before that. Also, I had no intentions whatsoever in hijacking threads. It was just a simple nice gesture I've added after my question.

If there was any confusion, I apologize, but I had no intentions whatsoever in any way to hijack this thread.


my apologies i was thinking i was posting in another thread. your fine here, its a legit question and you deserve an answer. again my apologies
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#110
Quote by trashedlostfdup
my apologies i was thinking i was posting in another thread. your fine here, its a legit question and you deserve an answer. again my apologies

No problem.

Anyways, back to the topic, from what I've heard, Zoom G3X has a better sound while Boss ME-80 is more durable. Which one should I go for, durability or sound?
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#111
again, since you will have the opportunity to try them both, do that.
use or bring the same (or similar) amp you plan on using
at home, and post back with any specific concerns.
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#112
Quote by jj1565
again, since you will have the opportunity to try them both, do that.
use or bring the same (or similar) amp you plan on using
at home, and post back with any specific concerns.

Just waiting on the Boss ME-80 order to arrive at Long & McQuade. Once it arrives, I will test them both. Once again, thank you very much for your assistance!
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#113
Quote by GaryBillington
Not actively shopping at the moment anyway, but I'm tempted to get the Harley Benton 212 Vintage that gets recommended a lot sometime later this year. Saw that Laney cab & thought it could be a good buy, I'm not a speaker expert so figured Celestions are Celestions and from a brand image perspective Laney > Harley Benton. Will stick with the original plan if/when I get around to shopping.


yeah that's kind of the trap, unfortunately. the good celestions are great but the rockets have the reputation of just having the celestion label to sucker in the noobs.

also the open- versus closed-back thing is worth bearing in mind- it's hard to go wrong with the harley benton for the money but if you had a reason for wanting an open-backed cab then that's not going to work so well.

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(a) But how in the damn world do you make 5w of power with a double triode, relatively low gain preamp tube?
I mean 5w!
My amp has to use an EL84 to get to 5w!
I mean the blackstar has 9 out of 10 an A/B power amp, though 5w seems a lot to me.

Also, do you know more specifically what kinda stuff the 12ax7 and the lotsa transistors do?
I'm kinda trying to discover that in detail but I can't interpret schematics for shit
The G212 vintage is a nice score if you can cope with the v30's brightness.
I mean they are pretty damn bright speakers.

(b) If you like darker stuff you may wanna look into some Jet City cab maybe.


(a) that's kind of getting beyond my pay grade As colin says, the 12bh7 is in push-pull class A/B which is a lot more efficient than the usual single-ended class A way most single power tube 5 watters are run. so that's probably how.

regarding the preamp circuit, again this is getting beyond my pay grade, but i suppose the handiest way to consider it is more or less a low gain tube preamp with a bunch of clean boost pedals (and also an overdrive pedal) in front of it. Pretty much what colin said, in other words- I think blackstar claims that having the tube at the end of the chain means that it's doing most of the overdriving in the preamp. I dunno. I'm gonna be sceptical considering everything else they've claimed. But to be sure I suppose you could link up an oscilloscope or something to it (which is definitely way beyond my pay grade ).

(b) nah if anything the jet city speakers and cab are even brighter. if you want darker than v30s you have a ton of options- but you might either need to swap speakers yourself or get a custom-built cab with your own choice of speakers fitted.

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my apologies i was thinking i was posting in another thread. your fine here, its a legit question and you deserve an answer. again my apologies


LOL I hate when I get confused as to which thread I'm in, happens to me all the time
I'm an idiot and I accidentally clicked the "Remove all subscriptions" button. If it seems like I'm ignoring you, I'm not, I'm just no longer subscribed to the thread. If you quote me or do the @user thing at me, hopefully it'll notify me through my notifications and I'll get back to you.
#114
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The return policy only works if there is a factory defect, but it probably won't work if you are selling it back just because you don't like it. Having said that, I am allowed to do a test run on the multi-fx processors in the store before I buy it. That's why I plan to do a comparison between the Zoom G3X and the Boss ME-80 once the ME-80 gets delivered into the store from the manufacturing factory.
From what I've heard, Boss effects are more durable while Zoom products tend to have a better clarity in sound. I just don't know which to choose, so that's why I've asked the UG community for help.
EDIT: P.S. I also tend to be a bit aggressive when it comes to using guitar effects.



You said in a later post that you're getting it from Long and Mcquade??

L&M's return policy is that if you dissatisfied with anything you buy, you have 30 days to bring it back, undamaged to get your money back, or get something else.

I've done this a dozen times with different pedals, and I know guys who've done it with amps and guitars.

If I were you, I'd try them in the store, buy the one you think you like best, then bring it home to play with. If it dosent work our with the rest of your rig, just bring it back and try again
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#115
How do the two "channels" of the VS Double Trouble differ? I played one today and the red channel sounded so much nice than the Blue one.
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#116
I found a glass slide today on clearance so I bought it.

I have absolutely no idea how to use it or what to do with it.

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#117
Quote by Offworld92
I found a glass slide today on clearance so I bought it.

I have absolutely no idea how to use it or what to do with it.

Halp.


i play very little bit of slide, and i tried various fingers. then i was at a jam with this guy really old he needed a chair to sit. then my god there was some nice playing, best slide i have seen in a typical gig. he used his pointer. may be obvious maybe not.

i use my ring finger, and tried my ring and pinky a lot. so it was a hindrance, but if you want a chord just lay the slide across.

another thing is if you a doing a lead with a slide, tune the first string to D and you hae GBD

GBD with a slide will do you well for a quick lead. but
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#118
Eurotubes sells a power tube kit for my Mesa roadster. It has two KT88s and two KT66s. They claim no modification is needed. I'm just curious because I know a lot of ams need a slight modification to run kt88s and I know kt66s run fine in place of 6l6s. Not sure how you could run them at the same time but sounds like it would be awesome. I went ahead and ordered JJ 6l6s for now but if this won't harm my amp, I would love to try these and keep the 6l6s in my gig kit to swap out for spares. I also thought about maybe just taking me mesa to craig from CEC since its only an hour or so away and having him just mod it to run kt88s but would I still be able to run the 6l6s if I wanted to?
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#119
I have lined up a used Peavey 6505 112 combo located about two hours away so i'm probably gonna pick it up. Gonna see if he will take $300.

1 question the guy says he bought it when they were first released. Are these ones any different then say a brand new one from the store? Besides being used i'm talking about whats inside and how it performs.
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#120
Quote by Offworld92
I found a glass slide today on clearance so I bought it.

I have absolutely no idea how to use it or what to do with it.

Halp.


I use my ring finger and deaden the strings behind the slide with my first finger.
You can use open tuning (Open E is popular, I kinda like open dm though).
Often I just keep the tuning in standard though.
If you use the same guitar for slide and regular playing, learn to use as little pressure on the strings as you can. This type of playing takes a little more practice though.
If you dedicate a guitar to slide, raise the action a bit higher.

One of these may help as well :
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_19?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=learn%20to%20play%20slide%20guitar&sprefix=Learn+to+play+slide%2Caps%2C309