#1
Hey everyone, as the title implies I'm looking to get what might as well be considered my first guitar. I'm finally planning on getting Rocksmith now that Japanese rockbands are appearing in DLC. I'm a huge hide fan from X Japan. So I was thinking of getting a Rich Pro Mocking Bird, the guitar the Fernandes Burny is based on.

I'd like to eventually import one of those Burnys with one of hide's designs on it but those are nearly two grand so that's not really a good place to start. lol

Anyways, I found this on musicians friend for $380.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/b.c.-rich-pro-x-custom-mockingbird-electric-guitar

and a couple deals that look good on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/B-C-Rich-Mockingbird-ST-Honey-Burst-Brand-New-No-tax-/171242158750?pt=Guitar&hash=item27ded3fa9e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BC-Rich-Mockingbird-Platinum-with-EMG-81-85-Pickups-/121271964870?pt=Guitar&hash=item1c3c5f54c6

What do you guy's think? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Saw the sticky thread regarding these so here they are.

My budget is $400
Don't mind if used, if minor wear.
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Last edited by CafeleLEMONed at Feb 16, 2014,
#2
Quote by CafeleLEMONed
Hey everyone, as the title implies I'm looking to get what might as well be considered my first guitar. I'm finally planning on getting Rocksmith now that Japanese rockbands are appearing in DLC. I'm a huge hide fan from X Japan. So I was thinking of getting a Rich Pro Mocking Bird, the guitar the Fernandes Burny is based on.

I'd like to eventually import one of those Burnys with one of hide's designs on it but those are nearly two grand so that's not really a good place to start. lol

Anyways, I found this on musicians friend for $380.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/b.c.-rich-pro-x-custom-mockingbird-electric-guitar

and a couple deals that look good on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/B-C-Rich-Mockingbird-ST-Honey-Burst-Brand-New-No-tax-/171242158750?pt=Guitar&hash=item27ded3fa9e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BC-Rich-Mockingbird-Platinum-with-EMG-81-85-Pickups-/121271964870?pt=Guitar&hash=item1c3c5f54c6

What do you guy's think? Any suggestions would be appreciated.


I have a Bich STQ which has the same features as the Mockingbird ST. Only difference is the ST has a trem and the STQ's have a hardtail. They also make a Mockingbird STQ if you don't want the Floyd Rose. I started on a Floyd so setting it up doesn't bug me like it does for some. Depends on what you want though.

The stock pickups should be fine for now, but later on you may want to upgrade them as I have. My STQ plays very well and came flawless in the mail.
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#3
Since you're familiar with Fernandes/Burny, you might want to look at Fernandes' direct sales website. They're having a clearance sale- suppies are limited, and the prices are low.

http://www.fernandesguitarshop.com/
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#4
Yeah the deal on the BCR pro X is not bad at all.
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#5
Quote by Robbgnarly
Yeah the deal on the BCR pro X is not bad at all.


The ST is a lot better guitar though, I'd go for that one if he or she can.
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#6
Quote by Blackfire.
The ST is a lot better guitar though, I'd go for that one if he or she can.

Ok, I'm not super familiar with newer BCR models, but I do know that The pro is not a typical "cheap" BCR most people associate with the name.
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
#8
Quote by CafeleLEMONed
Thanks for the tips so far.

I checked out that Fernandes sale and that RAVELLE SHIN DEMON caught my eye. Might have to up my budget a bit. I'm a sucker for an awesome paint job. lol

http://www.fernandesguitarshop.com/shin-series-guitars/55-ravelle-shin-dragon.html

Would you guy's recommend that guitar?


It should be a well made guitar, only thing I can see that you might not like is the back of the neck on the higher frets looks like it's pretty thick making it harder to play the high notes.

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Last edited by Blackfire. at Feb 16, 2014,
#9
Quote by Blackfire.
It should be a well made guitar, only thing I can see that you might not like is the back of the neck on the higher frets looks like it's pretty thick making it harder to play the high notes.


I definitely see your point there. lol Well a pretty paint job is not everything.
Last edited by CafeleLEMONed at Feb 16, 2014,
#10
Get one of these so you really appreciate your next guitar.





EDIT: sorry it is so big
Last edited by hairmetalguy at Feb 16, 2014,
#11
I meant to say a pretty paint job is NOT everything. LOL

Leaving out the word not changed the meaning entirely. doh...
#14
Quote by CafeleLEMONed
Nah I heeded your advice, I just goofed. I meant to say it's not everything.

I think I'm gonna go with the Mockingbird ST.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/b.c.-rich-pro-x-custom-mockingbird-st-electric-guitar


I know I was just kidding hehe.

That one is the Pro X in the link. It's not the better one.

Link to the ST:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/B-C-Rich-Mockingbird-ST-Honey-Burst-Brand-New-No-tax-/171242158750?pt=Guitar&hash=item27ded3fa9e

The Pro X has the cheaper trem(FR special), pickups(BDSM), and tuners(die-cast).

The ST has the Floyd 1000, Grover tuners, and Duncan pickups.
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Last edited by Blackfire. at Feb 16, 2014,
#15
Quote by Blackfire.
I know I was just kidding hehe.

That one is the Pro X in the link. It's not the better one.

Link to the ST:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/B-C-Rich-Mockingbird-ST-Honey-Burst-Brand-New-No-tax-/171242158750?pt=Guitar&hash=item27ded3fa9e

The Pro X has the cheaper trem(FR special), pickups(BDSM), and tuners(die-cast).

The ST has the Floyd 1000, Grover tuners, and Duncan pickups.

Ah, noted. I have a lot to learn.

My bid has been placed, wish me luck.
#16
Quote by Blackfire.
It should be a well made guitar, only thing I can see that you might not like is the back of the neck on the higher frets looks like it's pretty thick making it harder to play the high notes.


Just to answer this, I was going to buy a Ravelle SHIN Koi from that site, but the one slated for me was withdrawn from sale because of a defect.

So, no Koi for me. (Yet.)

However, I have two other Ravelles, one of which is the Gold Top LE, which has the identical specs to the SHIN Ravelles. It is a rock BEAST.

I'm not an upper fret maestro, but I can't say I've noticed any problems playing up there.
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#17
Quote by CafeleLEMONed
Ah, noted. I have a lot to learn.

My bid has been placed, wish me luck.


Good luck! Hope you get a good deal. I got a great deal on my Bich STQ from Ebay.

Quote by dannyalcatraz
I'm not an upper fret maestro, but I can't say I've noticed any problems playing up there.


Not saying you can't play notes up there, my LTD JH-600EC gets a bit chunky up there too, being more experienced I can deal with it. But your hand isn't in its normal playing position as if you were playing lower down the neck. The more you alter your hand positioning makes it less comfortable for you to play up there. Just pointing out that fact to a beginner so they can make an informed decision.
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Last edited by Blackfire. at Feb 17, 2014,
#18
No, you're absolutely right on that. My point was that my playing style doesn't take me up into those upper regions often enough so that that chunkiness matters to me. The cutout it has is sufficient for me, but it may not be so for everyone.

The SHIN Vertigos, OTOH, are going to have odder upper fret access. There's a deep-ish cut, but I have no idea what their heels are like.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Feb 17, 2014,