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So I got fired today after working two weeks at a distribution company. For the past half year I've been applying for jobs in Japan to teach English at the start of the academic year in Japan (April). So I've had a semi-constant stream of contact with Japanese companies throughout all that time.

My problem is, my employer decided to 'call it a day' since I've been applying for overseas jobs in general in my spare time. He came about this information by remotely accessing my work PC to monitor my activity during my scheduled break time, not during work time. I was mostly just checking my general email during my break as well as checking here, stuff like that.

I'm pretty annoyed since it's my private information that I accessed during my breaks, and, on top of that, I hadn't actually accepted a position yet. The law is pretty standard and a lot of monitoring can take place - if you're informed, which I wasn't.

So, just a warning and topic for you all to discuss and be wary of.
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#2
sounds like an unfair dismissal, you should look into doing something about that
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What the ****? What kind of employer does that

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#5
yea it seems like your employer did something wrong here
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So I got fired today after working two weeks at a distribution company.


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#8
What do you actually get if win an unfair dismissal case?

surely you don't get your job back
#9
Ypu shouldn't have used company property for personal business. Who checks on job apps while on a work computer, seriously?
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#11
The truth is I'm tempted to let the ****ing thing be. I can't be bothered dealing with it and I sure as hell won't be in the country long enough to faff around with the legal system. I'm more just pissed at the morality of it - can you really fire someone because they're applying for other jobs in their own time?

FYI I never checked job apps; I simply received emails back.
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#13
No, but you can fire them for doing it on a company computer on the company network.
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sounds like an unfair dismissal, you should look into doing something about that
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Were you using the work computer during work time to apply for this stuff?

Edit: I need to learn to read lol.

So it was during your break time, but you were still misusing the company computers.
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The truth is I'm tempted to let the ****ing thing be. I can't be bothered dealing with it and I sure as hell won't be in the country long enough to faff around with the legal system. I'm more just pissed at the morality of it - can you really fire someone because they're applying for other jobs in their own time?


And that's going to let your employer think he can get away with shit.

In addition to my other post, you may be out of luck as I think there's a minimum lemgth of service before you can claim unfair dismissal. It might be two years, same as for redundancy payments.
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Were you using the work computer during work time to apply for this stuff?


Nope. I'm fairly astute in general and I would consider it morally wrong to go and send jobs apps whilst at work.

My aim for the thread was just to raise awareness in general of the sort of monitoring that can occur, without your knowledge or without you being informed. That said, you should be informed and not being so is an offense.
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Don't ever use the work computer for anything besides work, they always know.

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#22
Sucks man. Shitty way to treat your employees too. I try to stick with the phone. But then again, I've always been offered free wifi for personal device use too. Were your personal emails read? I'm assuming since your employer knew you were looking at jobs. That seems like it shouldn't be legal, but idk much about UK law and tech stuff is always changing.
#23
You used company resources (Company computer, company network, company internet) to look for a job outside of the company?
You dun fucked up.
The only time it is acceptable to look for a job on company resources is if its a job inside that company.
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And that's going to let your employer think he can get away with shit.

In addition to my other post, you may be out of luck as I think there's a minimum lemgth of service before you can claim unfair dismissal. It might be two years, same as for redundancy payments.


Indeed, the length of time is likely the major downfall. That said, it's a minimum of two years for a letter of dismissal, the claim for compensation might stand regardless of time - it's just that I wouldn't receive a letter. Which, you know, is the one thing I really want

Well exactly, apathy is the problem of all societies and the power of all governments. But still, meh.

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You used company resources (Company computer, company network, company internet) to look for a job outside of the company?
You dun fucked up.
The only time it is acceptable to look for a job on company resources is if its a job inside that company.


Someone needs to go and read the thread properly
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He's British. They don't do that there. Just in America.
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#29
That...can't be legal. Can they really just read your e-mail? Is this e-mail on the company's domain name or your personal one? I can understand the first but if it's your personal one, it really is ****ed up. What did he tell you?
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It was my personal hotmail account. All that was said was: 'are you applying for jobs in Japan to leave in April?' The very nature implies seeing my private information, as I never - wisely - discussed it openly. And I'm not the kind of person that spams shit all over facebook and twitter.

It was a very one-sided conversation. I had no intention of denying my desire to move away, but I also had no intention of presenting that information before taking the job. After all, it's none of his business what my career aspirations are, or what I intend to do in the future.

I also didn't list this place of work as my most recent place of employment, therein preventing companies requesting work references from them.

I'm also not so noob enough to leave browsing history or other random shit lying around, being paranoid about employee monitoring in the first place.
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#32
Atleast you didn't get busted looking at porn and wanking by boss man like this other guy at the job.
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Indeed, the length of time is likely the major downfall. That said, it's a minimum of two years for a letter of dismissal, the claim for compensation might stand regardless of time - it's just that I wouldn't receive a letter. Which, you know, is the one thing I really want

Well exactly, apathy is the problem of all societies and the power of all governments. But still, meh.


Someone needs to go and read the thread properly


Were you or were you not using company resources to check your personal info?
Doesn't matter if you were using them during your break time.
#34
It was a dick move on the part of the employer 100% but also the reason I don't put my phone to the company WiFi or use company computers for anything other than work related stuff. Their machine, their broadband, their browser history to search through.

Good luck with the job prospects in Japan, I'd love to pack up and move across the globe to see/do new stuff. I just don't know what I'd do with the dogs.
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#35
If you're on a company PC at work it's legal. Happens all the time in the USA. Good luck.
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It was a dick move on the part of the employer 100% but also the reason I don't put my phone to the company WiFi or use company computers for anything other than work related stuff. Their machine, their broadband, their browser history to search through.

Good luck with the job prospects in Japan, I'd love to pack up and move across the globe to see/do new stuff. I just don't know what I'd do with the dogs.


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#38
Dude, just go to China. If you're white you can get a job teaching/tutoring by the time you leave the airport.
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Were you or were you not using company resources to check your personal info?
Doesn't matter if you were using them during your break time.

It's shitty, but this is the crux of the matter. TS is technically in the wrong.
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Friken socialists. This is where America is heading though, and everyone thinks it's just a dandy thing too.

Screw that guy, he'll get his one day. Move on and get a real job with someone who respects their employees.
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