#1
I just got a bonus from work and im looking to drop some money on a guitar, I currently have

Ibanez roadcore (mainly used for practice kept in E standard)
Ibanez Apex 1 (kept in drop A)
Ibanez rg stock inf 3 and 4 pickups ( tuned drop C#)

Laney ironheart half stack

I play alot of things ranging from blues and jazz lines to metal (mainly Trivium type stuff id probably use drop B every so often)

I was currently looking at two guitars -

Epiphone les paul standard at $630 aud

Pros -
Different to what I currently use
Cheaper option
I like the shape and the "heaviness"


Cons -
Not sure on pickups will suit metal
Pickups if needed will cost more
Reliabilty and finish


Ibanez RG Iron Label I didnt get the exact model code I can get it for $900 aud

Pros -
Emg 61/80
Edge III
Felt better made

Cons -
Same body as other guitars I own
Edge III meaning I cant change tunings as easily

I played both and the Ibanez definitely feels like a much more expensive and put together guitar but I guess for some reason I just cant turn the other options completely down yet.

I also was interested in a X shape Ibanez and doing a pickup swap as the same model had the inf 3/4 like my fixed bridge RG but then im straying away from my original ideas. I was mainly looking for a different workhorse to switch up that could be used gigging but if I go the floating way ill just keep it in my main drop tuning.
Last edited by stenzel at Feb 25, 2014,
#2
Thankfully i have a two step plan to help you make up your mind.

Play them both one more time.

Pick your favourite.


I had an ibanez rg 370dx and liked the neck, but the floating trem was a pain in the ass.
Ive also had an epiphone LP Prophecy GX which i loved... but traded for DBZ bolero and havent looked back.

Dont rush into it. But you should go with your gut...
#3
Try the Epiphone Les Paul 1960 Tribute Plus. It comes with real Gibson hardware (Gibson 57 Classic pickups, coil tapping, Switchcraft switches, Grover locking tuners etc.). Sells for $599.00 and includes a very nice hardshell case.
#5
Quote by Rickholly74
Try the Epiphone Les Paul 1960 Tribute Plus. It comes with real Gibson hardware (Gibson 57 Classic pickups, coil tapping, Switchcraft switches, Grover locking tuners etc.). Sells for $599.00 and includes a very nice hardshell case.


Yes,

sadly not in Australia for this price.....
#6
I'd get the Epi just to have something different. If you try a bunch out you'll find one that is up there in quality with the Ibanez and you can throw in some pickups with the money you saved. Epi's are very reliable and durable too.
Last edited by cheesefries at Feb 25, 2014,
#7
I was looking at the Matt Heafy Signature but I can't get it Australia so that put a spanner in the works. I will go back today and try them today. I may also the xiphos they had there a fixed and tremelo model and consider a pickup change if I decide to go for that shape.

Ive had a think last night and came to the conclusion that is be looking around $900aus either way having something I definetely want.

I priced emg 81/85 for the Epi which fitted and installed would bring it just under $900 all up.

Iron label is as is. I dont think there is anything I don't hate. It just comes across a bit boring and "unoriginal" if you can say that?

Ibanez Xiphos they have a fixed and tremelo version in store and would do a pickup swap with whatever I want and keep the stock pups. Id assume with that sont id be looking around 750 - 950 all up. But will the X shape wear off on me?
#8
You could try an esp ltd eclipse ii. Its a singlecut like the les paul, usually has emgs, has a thinner lighter body with a body contour on the back, and it doesn't have the crazy 17 degree headstock angle.
#9
Iron Label has Edge Zero II which is better than Edge III. Also, if you want to change tunings, there is Iron Label RG model with fixed bridge too.
#10
Quote by philwhite
You could try an esp ltd eclipse ii. Its a singlecut like the les paul, usually has emgs, has a thinner lighter body with a body contour on the back, and it doesn't have the crazy 17 degree headstock angle.


This is a good idea and seems like what you want - "classic" LP shape but neck and pickups geared toward metal. I'd check these out before you decide.
Guitars:
Jackson Kelly KE3 - MIJ (Distortion/Jazz)
Jackson DKMGT Dinky (EMG 81/85)
ESP E-II Eclipse Custom (JB/'59)
ESP LTD EC-1001FR (EMG 81/60)
Fender MIM Strat

Amps:
Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier Roadster 212
Laney IronHeart IRT-Studio
Peavey Vypyr 30
Peavey ReValver Amp Sims
TOOOO many T.C. Electronic Pedals. . .
#11
Yeah your right, it is a edge zero II I dont know where I got a edge III from.

I went back and I think ill be going down the epiphone route. I will say logically the iron label would be a more solid guitar but the feel of the epiphone has drawn me in and I think with a pickup swap will give me what I want. I suppose it now comes down too -

Considering Australian prices. Is the les paul standard decent enough to chuck some EMGs in or will it always come down to being a "lower end:" instrument.
#12
If you like the epiphone les paul you could get one with emgs like the prophecy. They also have blacked out hardware that looks cool. I've never owned an epiphone so can't say if they are good or not.
#13
I went back in and also played a few lower end Gibsons which really felt the dame but had a bit better fit and finish. I was about to walk away when they got onto their distributor and found out they can order in a Matt Heafy Signature for less then what itd cost me to chuck in EMGs into a base model. So once its ordered in of it plays well and the fit and finish is good ill buy it.
#14
given that i have owned an epiphone, i would like to try an ibanez. that, and ive always considered buying a mid - low grade S series with a floyd style to play more aggressive music and learn to use a locking trem. so i am pro ibanez right now.

my biggest comment is - DO NOT, do. not. pay 630 USD for an epiphone. too much good stuff on the market to drop that kinda cash on that type of quality.

my cap for epiphone is about 400. perhaps more if we are talking a casino or some nice hollow body. ill go to 600 on those.

i loved my epiphone les paul custom for years. it was great. not only that, i found its build and playability superior to almost any epiphone i picked up. friends, guitar center, etc. my guitar just had "MOJO". i paid $400 used. thats how i come to that logic.
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