#1
Hello UG. I'm looking for your valued opinion and experience
with the Fender 68 cu twin. I've been looking for a new bad ass
amp for awhile now. I checked one of these out in GC and I think
this is what i'm looking for. My main concern is it's 85w. I'm not looking
for a bedroom amp but I think it still may be too much. Obviously I wasn't able to crank it in guitar center.
My drummer is a heavy hitter and I usually have my Fender HRD set at 4 or 5.
Am I going to blow my ears trying to find the sweet spot?
My style of playing is hard rock/acid rock/blues rock.
Some of my Favorite tones come from Gilmour, Frampton.,Iommi,Page
Is this tbing too much?
Thanks for taking the time to read this and any opinions.
#2
You buy a Twin to get ridiculous amounts of headroom. Nobody (hardly) cranks them into distortion so the thing can't be too powerful. The sweet spot with a Twin is turned on.
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#3
It won't be too much, but from the bands you listed, I would think that you would be happier with something more British voiced.
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#4
Quote by Cathbard
You buy a Twin to get ridiculous amounts of headroom. Nobody (hardly) cranks them into distortion so the thing can't be too powerful. The sweet spot with a Twin is turned on.


I hear ya. I definitely was not looking to crank this amp in to distortion.
I'll be using pedals for that. But I would still would like to get some
Tube Mojo out of the amp. Having never played one put side of GC
I wasn't sure how it be at probably 3 or 4 on the dial.
#5
Quote by Cathbard
You buy a Twin to get ridiculous amounts of headroom. Nobody (hardly) cranks them into distortion so the thing can't be too powerful. The sweet spot with a Twin is turned on.


Indeed. Feels good.

I want to check out the new Silverface Custom so bad. haha. Looks awesome.
#6
A Twin is always a lotta amp. Too much amp for most of my gigs these days. I have a 64 Super Reverb and she lives in the studio now.
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#7
Quote by classicrocker01
It won't be too much, but from the bands you listed, I would think that you would be happier with something more British voiced.


Well,this amp does come loaded with g12 speakers. Also
after a lot of looking, Listening and trying different amps
I keep coming back to Fender. Gilmour used a twin for a little bit.
This amp is going to be an upgrade from my HRD. The plan is
if the band im in gets out of the basment. Next year i'll get somethin
else as well and keep this amp for the Fender tones I love.
#8
Hey man, if that's what you like and you know you like it, it's a good choice then


Missed the part about you having a HRD and loving it, sounds like the Fender is for you then
Gibson SG Standard
Gibson Les Paul Traditional
Cort Explorer
Squire Standard Strat rebuilt with Fender USA parts
Squire Tele
Krank 1980
Orange Tiny Terror
Traynor YCV 50 Blue
Peavey Vypyr 75

Will fly for food. Call me Dylan
#9
4 or 5 on a HRD is pretty loud, I wouldn't worry.
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#10
Quote by classicrocker01
Hey man, if that's what you like and you know you like it, it's a good choice then


Missed the part about you having a HRD and loving it, sounds like the Fender is for you then


I love Fender tone. But I only like my HRD. It seems to be missing something. Witch is why I
want to upgrade.
#11
Fender Twin is great, but yeah, don't expect to get a ton of "mojo" by cranking it. But it will be the nicest platform for pedal dirt you've ever had.
#12
Quote by iwannabesedated
Fender Twin is great, but yeah, don't expect to get a ton of "mojo" by cranking it. But it will be the nicest platform for pedal dirt you've ever had.


Well,that is some what comforting as using it with good pedals was my
main interest.
#13
twins are fantastic at what they do but without pedals aren't very versatile. personally I'd consider getting a nice 2 channel amp with good cleans and an overdrive section capable of getting you some of the tones mentioned without pedals (except perhaps an overdrive)
#14
Quote by monwobobbo
twins are fantastic at what they do but without pedals aren't very versatile. personally I'd consider getting a nice 2 channel amp with good cleans and an overdrive section capable of getting you some of the tones mentioned without pedals (except perhaps an overdrive)


I really want a good Fender amp. And as I mentioned before I do
plan on getting another amp. I was really liking the Bogner xtc. I
just don't know if I should drop that kind of coin on an amp before
my band gets out of the Basement. I figured the Fender would keep
me happy for a year and if every thing goes well buy the big dog latter.
Or do you think my reasoning is off?
#15
I just want to thank every one for your input.
The amp has been orderd and should be here
by Tuesday. Now I have one last question.
I've been reading that the tubes that come in these
Amps arn't that good. Is it worth doing a tube swap
right away with some Quality tubes?
#16
It's worth changing the preamp tubes. Put decent power tubes in as soon the stock ones start to give any symptoms of failure - but not after they actually fail.
Gilchrist custom
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Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#17
Quote by Cathbard
It's worth changing the preamp tubes. Put decent power tubes in as soon the stock ones start to give any symptoms of failure - but not after they actually fail.


Thanks man. I have never had an amp retubed. Any suggestions
on good tubes? I'd be looking for sound quality over price.
#18
Genalex and Gold Lion are good. I am quite partial to JJ's myself but not so much in a Fender. I'd probably go with JJ everywhere and something a bit brighter in V1. Maybe one of the first two I mentioned or a TungSol reissue.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#20
Absolutely, and for lots of reasons, least of which is not occ health and safety. Some of the chemicals they used back in the day were serious ****ed up shit that nobody would dream of working with today.
And it's a skilled process. The expertise of the machine operator is key. Back in the day there were factories making tubes all over the world. It wasn't a specialised thing like it is today and when things are commonplace the skill level rises. You get a bigger pool of people to choose from etc.
All those skilled operators are dead or retired now.


You're in the US, no? If so then what you should be looking for are American RCA tubes. The Phillips ones were great too. Tbh, all the American tubes were very good but for audio those two stand out a bit.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#21
Quote by Cathbard
Absolutely, and for lots of reasons, least of which is not occ health and safety. Some of the chemicals they used back in the day were serious ****ed up shit that nobody would dream of working with today.
And it's a skilled process. The expertise of the machine operator is key. Back in the day there were factories making tubes all over the world. It wasn't a specialised thing like it is today and when things are commonplace the skill level rises. You get a bigger pool of people to choose from etc.
All those skilled operators are dead or retired now.


You're in the US, no? If so then what you should be looking for are American RCA tubes. The Phillips ones were great too. Tbh, all the American tubes were very good but for audio those two stand out a bit.


Yes,I live in the states. I have a Fender bassman silver face from either the late 60's
or early 70's that has the Original tubes in it. It was given to me by my dad. So I know
there isn't much time on that amp. I guess if they don't make em' like they used too,
then the tubes in that thing are probably worth more than the amp it's self...lol

Thank you for the info. I'm gonna look into those tubes.
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#22
I used a '65 Twin Reverb (which I think is also 85w?) with a 5 piece prog band, competing with a JCM800, a keyboard player who seemed to want to blow his own eardrums, and the loudest drummer I've ever heard, and it usually sat at around 4. You should easily get up to the sweet spot, which is usually around 3-4, if your drummer is loud.
A dwarf might hear you. What then?

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#23
Quote by SpiralArchitec7
Yes,I live in the states. I have a Fender bassman silver face from either the late 60's
or early 70's that has the Original tubes in it. It was given to me by my dad. So I know
there isn't much time on that amp. I guess if they don't make em' like they used too,
then the tubes in that thing are probably worth more than the amp it's self...lol

Thank you for the info. I'm gonna look into those tubes.


Not really. If that amp is in decent condition it's still worth something in the $400 to $600 range. The tubes I doubt are worth much more than $100 for the whole set.
#24
Quote by iwannabesedated
Not really. If that amp is in decent condition it's still worth something in the $400 to $600 range. The tubes I doubt are worth much more than $100 for the whole set.


Ha yea I know man. That was just a joking Exaggeration.
#25
Quote by SpiralArchitec7
Ha yea I know man. That was just a joking Exaggeration.


It's hard to tell on here sometimes.