#1
Hi there,

http://www.voxamps.com/uk/nighttrain/lilnighttrain/

I bought a Vox Lil Night train amp in the Summer and I absolutely love it! It has fantastic tone. My only problem is that it has screeching highs, but is lacking in the bass department. My bass nob is on full all the time and it's just not enough, and I find myself plugging into amplitube sometimes and using my 5.1 PC speakers, just to get better lows to fill the room better.

I still have the original 10 inch Celestion VX10 cab. I'm wondering whether buying a bigger cab will give me this low end? Because when I plug the amp head into my PC through a line in, although the quality isn't amazing, I can get a beefier low end sound from it.

Cheers!

Phil
#2
A 12 inch speaker will go a long way. Personally, I like 2x12 cabs with my amps.
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#3
Yeah a 12" speaker will help
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#5
You're in the UK, right?

Look for an Orange PPC112 or a PPC212. Really great quality and you guys get great prices on Orange stuff over there.

Stay away from no name random auctions like that. Probably some crap "Designed by Celestion" BS in there.
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#6
what guitar are you playing? have you experimented with any pedals and guitar tone knobs etc to balance it out?

imo its way better to have a bright tone than a dull one. you can take away, you cant add what isnt there.

and adding bass may or may not tame the high end. yes a 12 incher will do you good in the bass department, but if that 12 inch speaker has some ice picky high end frequenicies, then your going to get bass and treble.

i would say your on the right path to a thicker, deeper tone with such a small amp, but have not pin pointed the issue.
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#7
Marshall has made some decent 2x12s and some really crappy ones, and I can't tell which that is. If you're in the UK, people really seem to love the Harley Benton 2x12s with Vintage 30s, if your budget doesn't allow for the Orange suggested above.
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#8
AFAIK the ONLY decent 2x12 Marshall ever made was the 1936.

That said I am no Marshall history guru by any means.


And I absolutely cannot believe I didn't even think to mention Harley Benton.
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#9
^ Yep, that's the one. Couldn't remember the model number to save my life.
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#10
Yeah I am. Ok thanks mate. I'm on a budget you see, but I might take my amp head down to my local guitar shop and try one of these.
#11
Quote by philleonard
Yeah I am. Ok thanks mate. I'm on a budget you see, but I might take my amp head down to my local guitar shop and try one of these.


Don't let your budget be too hard a limiter. Save up if you need to. If you buy cheap crap, you'll waste a lot of money and time.

I know way too well, I've been way too far down that road.

If you buy a Marshall 1936 or an Orange PPC212 or even the Harley Benton 212, that's a great piece of gear that you can keep for life.
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#12
Try an EQ pedal...
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#13
Fwiw I have a night train and the open back ppc212 and they sound bad together. Really harsh high end and not enough lows. It sounds better through my Marshall cab though.
#14
EQ pedal is a solid suggestion. i still maintain with the right EQ, guitar settings, cab/ speaker etc you should be able to naturally tame the tone
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#15
So an EQ pedal would actually be able to produce these lows that I need, not just limit the guitar frequencies to the range of bass that the cab already produces? (If you get what I mean)
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Quote by philleonard
So an EQ pedal would actually be able to produce these lows that I need, not just limit the guitar frequencies to the range of bass that the cab already produces? (If you get what I mean)

Yes you can Boost the lows and cut the the higher freqs...
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Quote by Offworld92
AFAIK the ONLY decent 2x12 Marshall ever made was the 1936.

That said I am no Marshall history guru by any means.


And I absolutely cannot believe I didn't even think to mention Harley Benton.
And even then, the 1936 is hardly what I'd be looking for for more bass.
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