#1
Hi,

Pease help me choose an electric guitar. And an amp. And a pedal.
But the guitar is of primary importance.
Budget for the guitar is $1'000 - $2'500. Amp and pedal, $1'000.
I'm at the initial stage of my search so I'm looking for general suggestions and any specific models you may have in mind pls.

I've been playing acoustic for some years and haven't picked up an electric since 2009.

I'm looking for a rich, warm and creamy tone. I assume a semi-hollow would suit the role perfectly, but I'm also open to solid bodies.

I'd eventually like to play jazz, but I haven't learned to yet.
The kind of music I'm most comfortable playing right now is... for lack of a better description, mostly mellow, groovy, ponderous stuff.

Darkside's album "Psychic" - its final song, ' Metatron ' in particular - resembles my currently preferred style.
Real Estate's new album, "Atlas", is also quite close.

Apologies if my parameters are too basic or vague. I can always clarify or elaborate if needed.
Last edited by dadpleaseno at Mar 4, 2014,
#2
Oh, and pickups! I know nothing about pickups, but I imagine I'll need some?

edit: didn't mean to bump.
Last edited by dadpleaseno at Mar 4, 2014,
#3
Get a nice Artcore or Casino. Then spend the rest of your money on a great amp.
#5
I second the Ibanez Artcores, especially if you get something a little higher-end that has the Custom 58 pickups. I like my AM93, but it's kinda bright - you may want something with a larger body.

Other good brands include Godin (a 5th Avenue in particular might be a good fit for you), Hagstrom, or some of the higher-end Epiphone semi-hollows. Take a day to go to some guitar stores and try as many as you can and see which ones feel the best to you.
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Highway One Tele (w/Custom Shop 51 Nocaster pickups)
Standard Tele (modded to Nashville specs)
Reverend Roundhouse

Orange Rockerverb 50 MKI
Vox AC4c1
Jet City JCA20H

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#6
Seconding those Epis and also the Godin. Godin has several incredible semihollows in their lineup right now, all worth looking at. You especially might want to try bidding on this one, though- it's been relisted a couple of times and the reserve has been lowered at least once. (Even the "Buy it now" price has dropped @$500!):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271417404930?_trksid=p2055120.m1438.l2661&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Besides those, consider these:

Fret-King Black Label Elise GG
http://fret-king.com/black-label/elise-gg-gordongiltrap.html#.UxYgfMu9KSM

Hagstrom Deuce Tremar
http://www.hagstromguitars.eu/index.php?option=com_zoo&task=item&item_id=1891&category_id=56&Itemid=36

Reverend Pete Andersons
http://www.reverendguitars.com/instrument/pete-anderson-pa-1/
http://www.reverendguitars.com/instrument/pete-anderson-pa-1-rt/
http://www.reverendguitars.com/instrument/pete-anderson-pa-1-hb/

Or even a custom, like these Jon Kammerer guitars (he's having a sale):
http://reverb.com/marketplace?query=Jon+Kammerer
http://jonkammerercustoms.com/help-template_012.htm
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#7
Quote by dadpleaseno
Oh, and pickups! I know nothing about pickups, but I imagine I'll need some?


most guitars come with pickups already

at that kind of budget i'd be checking out the higher end stuff... gibson etc. etc. Most should have pretty low output pickups already which is probably what you want.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#8
Wow. I had no idea my budget could get me this far. It's great, thanks for the suggestions.

I forgot to add that I play a lot of Nick Drake but I suppose these wide-bodied guitars can probably double as decent acoustics in a pinch.

(The only guitar I've ever owned is an acoustic Yamaha YSP five hundred something.)
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#9
Quote by Dave_Mc
at that kind of budget i'd be checking out the higher end stuff... gibson etc. etc. Most should have pretty low output pickups already which is probably what you want.


Most Gibson semihollows are at the high end, or outside of, his budget.
#10
Some of them are under his budget, surely? The midtown custom on thomann is ~£800, for example, and normally US prices are less than Europe. I could be wrong, though.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#11
Quote by dadpleaseno
Wow. I had no idea my budget could get me this far. It's great, thanks for the suggestions.

I forgot to add that I play a lot of Nick Drake but I suppose these wide-bodied guitars can probably double as decent acoustics in a pinch.

(The only guitar I've ever owned is an acoustic Yamaha YSP five hundred something.)

Only the best wide-bodied fully hollow electric guitars will sound anything like a decent acoustic. At best, they're an emergency backup for an acoustic.
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#12
Fair enough. No worries though since I don't plan on getting rid of my Yamaha.
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#13
Talk to Jim Soloway and ask him if he knows of any of his Single 15 Fingerstyle guitars that are out there for sale. www.jimsoloway.com

Doug Kauer is building them for Jim last time I looked; he might have a line on one as well.
#14
Carvin SH550:





They start at US$1,700.00, but are worth every cent.
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#15
Gretch electromatic series and spend the rest on a quality amp
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Gretsch G5422tdc
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#16
Quote by FatalGear41
Carvin SH550:





They start at US$1,700.00, but are worth every cent.

Agreed. Love the SH550!
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#17
If you want to save money and still have buttery guitar, Try an Ibanez artcore. I have AF95 I got used for $300, brilliant construction, pickups weak. Spent $100 on two StewMac golden age humbuckers, and wow! Exceptional sound. Pro friend who has ES335 says likes sound of mine better than his, and it is also prettier. Full hollowbodies baby.
#18
Quote by dadpleaseno


I forgot to add that I play a lot of Nick Drake


I'm sorry, but that's a deal breaker.
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#19
Somebody's going to hate me here...But *ahem* I was just yesterday playing jazz-like stuff (I suck at jazz, I'll admit it, but I need to learn a whole lot of new chords) on my <*brace yourself*> Variax. The JTV-89F. The one that looks like a shredder.

It has models based on four or five acoustics, plus other models based on the '61 ES-335, the '64 Epiphone Casino, a 1954 ES-175 and a 1953 Super 400. I can only speak for the ES-335 and the ES-175 for accuracy; I own a '67 ES-335 and a '49 ES-175 (neck pickup only). The models are very close.
#20
Quote by FatalGear41
Carvin SH550:


They start at US$1,700.00, but are worth every cent.


The Carvin SH550 is an excellent guitar. My first impression of it (several years ago; we have a Carvin store here in LA, directly across from the flagship Guitar Center on Sunset) was that it was smaller than I expected. I have both 335s and a Yamaha AM-205. The latter is the early 80's smaller version of the 335 that Gibson copied when it created the smaller-bodied 335-look guitars it now sells. The SH-550 is smaller than that.

Gibson sells a guitar it calls the Midtown that looks like a 335 at first glance, but it's smaller and flat topped (and not very well-built, IMHO). They carve the back (and interior) out of a single block of mahogany (and so does the Carvin). They then slap a flat top on that and call it a day.

Carvin takes things several steps further, and carves the top out of a big chunk of figured maple (or koa or whatever you've ordered up). It's an extremely well done guitar, makes the Gibson Midtown look like amateur night. The woods on the SH550 are amazing, even stunning, and the finishes superb (the Midtowns are, some of them, already cracking). The fretwork on Carvins tends toward the outstanding (at one point they advertised "action as low as 1/16th" at the 24th fret, guaranteed" and they delivered). Stainless frets are available as an option, and you can even choose from several headstock shapes (the one that's narrower at the top is highly recommended, rather than the wider 3+3). The stock pickups are very good indeed (Internet Myth is that all Carvin pickups are "sterile" -- ignore it).

The result is a guitar that fights feedback pretty much as well as an LP, but that has its own sound somewhere between an LP and a 335, with sustain leaning toward the LP. The neck heel is far easier to maneuver around than an LP neck heel, however, and you'll grumble if you have to go back to the LP <G>.

Oh. Right. And then there's the Carvin SH-645 series:



Check out the neck heel on these suckers:

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#21
If you haven't bought yet, take another look at Godins on eBay. There are several that have been sitting there for a while- with price drops- and some new listings.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Godin-5th-Avenue-Kingpin-II-/271428432123?ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1653
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Strap on, tune up, rock out!
#22
In that price range you'd do well to look at the Heritage guitars made in the old Kalamazoo factory Gibsons had.

http://www.heritageguitar.com/indexf.html

All your favourite Gibson models without the sticker price shock. Lots of 'jazzers' play Heritage guitars. If you can find a used one it will be fantastic value.
#23
http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/u_hb_series14.php?series_id=112&year=2014&cat_id=7

I have an AS151 and AS153 in the shop I work at right now. If you haven't had the opportunity to check out an Ibanez semi or full hollowbody, I really, really recommend it. Both of the models I mentioned are about $1,000. They've got guys like Pat Metheny, John Schofield, and George Benson using them. I'm not usually big on sponsorships, but those are the biggest three names in Jazz guitar right now. Great guitars.


After about $1,000-$1,250 on one of those, that leaves you a great amount of spending room for an amplifier. The Roland JC-120 Jazz Chorus seems to be a current favorite for the sound, but if you want something that will leave you some more flexibility for other genres, check out the Fender Super Reverb RI. I'd recommend a re-tube on most new Fender amps. A lot of the GT's they come with stock are pretty flat sounding. Likewise good Fender amps for Jazz would be a Vibrolux Reverb or a Deluxe 65' RI.
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