#1
So I'm the proud owner of a beautiful Mahogany HH tele for almost 2 years now, and I'm about to put Bareknuckle Nailbombs in it, whenever Guitarasylum can fufill my order. Apparently tyger covers are rare in those pickups

Anyways, how rare are these guitars? I've never seen another one, and I was so lucky to get this one. I do know that they stopped production of them in 2012(mines a early 2011). Also, do yall think swapping out the stock Seymore Duncan's(came from the factory with a SD SH-11 Custom Custom and SD Pearly Gates) for Bareknuckles? These guitars will have to be a collectable 10 years from now right?

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#2
Congratulations on a lovely guitar, it is collectible just like anything else is. Whether or not it will be valuable (which is what I think you're getting at) is a different matter. It's a maybe, who knows? It's a niche item, and they do a load of limited run stuff. Select stuff, FSR, who knows what will be collectible and will increase in value.

I'd say that the collectible stuff will be AVRI, certain CS Relic Masterbuilds, Select and the odd one, maybe like yours, maybe not.

If people are talking about it as being an amazing guitar then you have a better chance. People talk a lot about the current AVRI 65, the Tele AVRI 52 and some Select stuff. Also they go on and on about Cruz Custom Shop Relics.

You could be in luck, or you could just have a nice guitar, I'd say that latter is the more probable, but what do I know.
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#3
That was a special edition done by Fender a little while ago. I believe they sold new for about US$1,100.00. I have not seen one for sale for some time now. HNGD! Enjoy it!
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#4
a beauty for sure. it's also non traditional and so far the no trad stuff really doesn't end up being very collectable. will hold it's value though.
#5
I bought this one off the floor of Straight Music for $1000. It sat in their store for over a year which I find insane, it's like it was meant for me to find. If you've ever played one of these guitars, even though they are made in Korea and Indonesia, they are Fender's best kept secret, and I'm not the only one to say that.

Any opinions on how the value might change with Bareknuckles?
#6
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I bought this one off the floor of Straight Music for $1000. It sat in their store for over a year which I find insane, it's like it was meant for me to find. If you've ever played one of these guitars, even though they are made in Korea and Indonesia, they are Fender's best kept secret, and I'm not the only one to say that.

Any opinions on how the value might change with Bareknuckles?


it won't. mods no matter how nice really don't add much to value if at all. keep the original pups. recently bought a MIM Strat from GC with all kinds of mods including steel block and LSR roller nut. still paid $300. they had a little more on it but came down to same price as regular MIM. to me those mods were what I wanted (saved me a bundle) but many don't see it that way.
#7
Quote by monwobobbo
it won't. mods no matter how nice really don't add much to value if at all. keep the original pups. recently bought a MIM Strat from GC with all kinds of mods including steel block and LSR roller nut. still paid $300. they had a little more on it but came down to same price as regular MIM. to me those mods were what I wanted (saved me a bundle) but many don't see it that way.


That's what I figured. I'm gonna give the SD's to my neighbor, since he's looking for a pearly gate, and he's a guitar builder...I figure SD will always keep making those pickups so I can just buy new ones if I loose my mind and want to sell it, and nobody would know the difference right?
#10
I wouldn't sweat "collectible" when it comes to new guitars. There are lots and lots of short runs out there as manufacturers try very hard to get their customers to scoop up guitars that they've been told will be difficult to come by once they're gone. We're simply not seeing as much interest in short run guitars as the manufacturers would love us to believe and expect. And there are just too many of them.

Best thing? Forget the words "rare" and "collectible" when discussing a newish guitar.
There's just little point to it.
#14
1000$ for an axe made in Indonesia is a rip off. Especially a used guitar that sat on a showroom floor for over 12 months
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#15
they weren't originally made in indonesia i wanted to buy one of these a while ago but they raised the price $200 and stopped prodcution from korea to indonesia so i ended up getting an american standard strat instead.

there is also a flames maple top version that goes around $200 less than the spalted and it has a thin neck and a a smaller scale 24.75 i believe.
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#16
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1000$ for an axe made in Indonesia is a rip off. Especially a used guitar that sat on a showroom floor for over 12 months


Plays better than a $3500 Gibson Les Paul, and sounds better. So no, it's not a rip off just because it wasn't made in America.
#17
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Plays better than a $3500 Gibson Les Paul, and sounds better. So no, it's not a rip off just because it wasn't made in America.


The thin neck is really nice.
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#18
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Plays better than a $3500 Gibson Les Paul, and sounds better. So no, it's not a rip off just because it wasn't made in America.



Subjective.


Which $3,500 have you played that didn't come off a wall in a guitar shop?
#19
Country of origin is immaterial. The "Chinese Crap" and "Indonesian Junk" type dismissals are nothing short of moronic.

Solid body electric guitar building is low-tech and task-oriented. So is tube-amp hand-wiring.

Gil Yaron has built some of the best (and more expensive) '59 burst replicas on the planet in what amounts to a garage-type workshop in Israel.

Nik Azam had trouble finding quality parts for his Marshall, so he began importing them and building the circuit boards for them (he started out an IT geek) in around 2000. In 2004 he made Ceriatone a full-time business and has grown it to 17 employees, exporting to 70 countries, shipping 100-200 amplifiers a month. Handwired. He's in Malaysia, and his attitude makes the company. That and extensive word of mouth (virtually no other marketing). The emphasis is on quality. He'll ship you one of his Overtone Specials (handwired Dumble clone) for about $1300. His kits, parts and complete amps are inside some of the "boutique" brands sold for much, much more.

Some of the Epiphones made in Indonesia are arguably better guitars than the same guitars built in Qingdao. It's all about the factory's commitment to quality, rather than a tidak apa ("ain't no big thing") attitude.
#20
Quote by JustRooster
Subjective.
Which $3,500 have you played that didn't come off a wall in a guitar shop?


All of this is "subjective," which is why there's so much Bolshoi tossed around in Internet forums <G>.

It's certainly possible for a cheap guitar to play better than an expensive one; I have a $200 Agile that plays at least as well as my $4K Axcess Custom. That's really not subjective; both were PLEK'd within a week of each other, both using the same player criteria (you can save it as a file in the PLEK machine) and both were set up by the same tech to the same spec. The neck profiles are surprisingly similar; the only real difference you can feel is that between nibs and nicely rounded frets, jumbo and medium jumbo frets, between a rosewood and an ebony fretboard, and between a 13.7" radius and a 12" radius. That part is subjective, but there's nothing there that makes one better than the other.

"Sounding" better is completely subjective.
#21
I'm definitely a believer in the low-budget gem. I am a Strat fan after all. Guitars that are played in generally tend to feel better, though. I don't think it's fair to judge an expensive guitar solely on picking it up off a hanger at a shop and noodling for a few minutes, just because it's probably not the most accurate representation.
#22
Quote by JustRooster
I'm definitely a believer in the low-budget gem. I am a Strat fan after all. Guitars that are played in generally tend to feel better, though. I don't think it's fair to judge an expensive guitar solely on picking it up off a hanger at a shop and noodling for a few minutes, just because it's probably not the most accurate representation.


Good point.

I do NOT get the "conventional wisdom" of "trying a bunch of guitars in a shop until one speaks to you." I sold the things for a while. We'd pull the new ones out of the box and toss them on the wall (okay, we tuned them). The guitars we wanted to sell (because we didn't like them or because they'd just been hanging around too long) we'd set up perfectly and tweak until we liked them. Sure enough, the customer would trot in, play a few and grab either that guitar or the one he thought was prettiest (we could tell) and take it home.

Virtually every guitar in the place could be set up well enough to "speak." Most of the customers thought it was because it was a better guitar. We knew better.
#23
I think the whole point about playing loads till one speaks to you can be attributed to the fact that by the time the guitar gets to a shop wall the factory setup has changed somewhat, and one will feel like shit to you and another will feel better because it's closer to how you normally like them.
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Sure upgrading your gear will make you sound better.