#1
So guys, i got a classic 30 a couple months ago. It sounds really good, i run my disaster transport, octa fuzz, and monarch through it and its greaT. only problem is, i cant get it past 1 1/2 at practice, this thing is just loud. I wanted some head room for cleans and use my monarch for the overdrive, but i cant even open this thing up. Im thinking about selling it and getting an orange tiny terror, maybe run it at 7 watts. would this be a good idea? Bad idea? Were playing a show for a good size crowd tonight so i guess ill see how it fares, then make my decision.
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#2
30watts is loud, but it is controllable with the volume knob. You can always swap the 12ax7's in the pre amp for some 5751's and that will help a little.
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#3
7 watts will go a long way, especially if you're using a 2x12 or more, but from what I've heard the classic 30 is a great amp. I'd keep it, and as Robbgnarly said, just use your guitar volume knob. IMO, too much volume is always better than not enough...
You may also notice that the volume increase from 2 - 10 isn't as linear as the jump you get from 1.5 - 2
#4
The tiny terror with sensitive speakers will not really be less loud if ya ask me, so I wouldn't get that unless you liked the sound more.
Also, it really depends on the amp how good will it sound at 1/10th of the volume:
a friend of mine's vintage 18orsomething w amp sounds better than my 5w at real low volumes.

And how do you know you "can't get the thing to open up"?
Because it may be that but it also may be caused by the fact that the speakers don't push enough air to you to sound nice and full.
Plus, you'll probably get used to it a bit if you turn up the volume a bit more sometimes - yesterday it was the first day I kept my amp at full volume after months I bought it.
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#5
If you get 7 watt, then you'll get alot less headroom.

And this:
You may also notice that the volume increase from 2 - 10 isn't as linear as the jump you get from 1.5 - 2


I find 30 watt to be managable. Get some earplugs maybe?
#6
You won't see any real volume difference going to the tiny terror. I'd stick with what you have, utilize the volume knob on your pedals to make it more controllable
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#7
Thanks guys, were doing a short jamsession today before the show, ill report back tonight with my findings.
#8
You can put a volume box like this in the FX loop and it will help a lot with getting a better "cranked" sound out of your amp www.voodoomanswitches.com/component/page,shop.product_details/flypage,shop.flypage/product_id,162/category_id,39/manufacturer_id,0/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,1/
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#9
Someone told me those devices are scam. Anyone ever tried?
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they work just fine. They are just another volume control that will help you fine tune it. They also have a 30 and a 50 watt attenuator for $49 www.voodoomanswitches.com/component/page,shop.product_details/flypage,shop.flypage/product_id,283/category_id,39/manufacturer_id,0/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,1/
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#11
**** Voodooman Switches. That ****er has made like eight "companies" all doing the same shit and ripped a bunch of people off.

Also, I just put a volume pedal in my fx loop to control volume a little bit.
#12
A 30 watt amp is too loud?

You really wouldn't like some of the sludge bands I know that run three 300 watt amps turned all the way up.
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A 30 watt amp is too loud?

You really wouldn't like some of the sludge bands I know that run three 300 watt amps turned all the way up.


Yep, Black Sabbath at Swing Auditorium 1971. Lee Michaels too. Lost a lot of hearing in the room with those guys. Nobody really needs to run at 130db.

30w is plenty enough for a guitar amp and there are ways to tame it. Volume pedal and attn, work fine.
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#16
Hey guys, we played tonight, sounded really good, but my amp still didnt sound big. I duno, we play pop punk sort of, but i like to be able to hear everything not just me, and i like for us to stay at a good volume as to be able to hear all the dynamics, i just dont know what to do.
#17
Are you guys playing for babies falling asleep?

I'm kidding, but I can't see how it is too loud. I mean that loud!
#18
Quote by ColeFleming
So guys, i got a classic 30 a couple months ago. It sounds really good, i run my disaster transport, octa fuzz, and monarch through it and its greaT. only problem is, i cant get it past 1 1/2 at practice, this thing is just loud. I wanted some head room for cleans and use my monarch for the overdrive, but i cant even open this thing up. Im thinking about selling it and getting an orange tiny terror, maybe run it at 7 watts. would this be a good idea? Bad idea? Were playing a show for a good size crowd tonight so i guess ill see how it fares, then make my decision.


Are you shitting me? 30 watts is too much.. are you sure you have balls? I bet 120 would absolutely blow your brains out! You're going to play a show with a 7 watt amp... I hope the 2 people that show up are really close. You guys on here kill me with these threads and low wattage equipment , that gear is made for alone time practice or apt/ dorm room dwellers, not gigs not yard parties... 30 watts is too loud how have you ever gone to a concert? I swear it's a ****ing contest here to see who can play the lowest wattage equipment the quietest, buy a ****ing amp with some watts and put some damn ear plugs in if it's too loud... damn what a bunch of pussies.
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Are you shitting me? 30 watts is too much.. are you sure you have balls? I bet 120 would absolutely blow your brains out! You're going to play a show with a 7 watt amp... I hope the 2 people that show up are really close. You guys on here kill me with these threads and low wattage equipment , that gear is made for alone time practice or apt/ dorm room dwellers, not gigs not yard parties... 30 watts is too loud how have you ever gone to a concert? I swear it's a ****ing contest here to see who can play the lowest wattage equipment the quietest, buy a ****ing amp with some watts and put some damn ear plugs in if it's too loud... damn what a bunch of pussies.

If I ever have to hear you speak mate I'll be sure to invest in some ear plugs
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Seriously tho, I don't really understand how 1.5 on a classic 30 is even loud enough to keep up with a drummer.

When I use to run my Kustom 36' coupe (36 watts all tube), I'd crank that sucker up to about 3/4 at practice.

My buddy has the classic 50 and runs that thing a lot harder in a band setup then you say you run the classic 30.
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Seriously tho, I don't really understand how 1.5 on a classic 30 is even loud enough to keep up with a drummer.

When I use to run my Kustom 36' coupe (36 watts all tube), I'd crank that sucker up to about 3/4 at practice.

My buddy has the classic 50 and runs that thing a lot harder in a band setup then you say you run the classic 30.


Seriously though, wtf? Is your drummer playing with toothpicks?

I agree, I don't even know how your problem is possible.
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#25
you love the sound of the amp, right? then keep it. if it is too loud, turn it down. if its too quiet, turn it up. i run a 15 watt or a 50 watt amp depending on what im doing, both of them are capable of being too loud, and both are capable of sounding good at a moderate volume.
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#26
Just keep the Classic 30.

As far as "opening it up" goes? The power section in those things doesn't break up ever in my experience.
#27
What does your band consist of, exactly? One guitar, banjo, and someone beat boxing?

Really though, unless you're playing a Sunn Beta Lead I can't imagine how 1.5 volume could be loud enough for anything related to a band. I had a JCA22H and ran it around 6 to sit comfortably in a mix with a drummer, bassist, another guitarist, and singer. My VTM can hang without an issue at 3, sounds best at 10 though
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