#1
Hello all,

I am new to the world of overdrive pedals (and tube amps generally). I have a Mesa Rectoverb and I am looking to get into Death or Carcass territory. I would like to buy a clean boost and I was wondering what I should buy. I hear a lot about the Boss DS1 and the Screamer TS/9 but what is the difference? Which one would be best for me? Or is there another choice that would better suit my needs?

Thanks.
#2
The DS-1 is a shit boost, hell, it's just a shit pedal. Some sort of tubescreamer would do the deed but really, MXR 10 band EQ.
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#3
For the tubescreamer look at the Joyo Vintage Overdrive - it's a clone of the Maxon 808 and it's $30 on Amazon. I use it and it gets good reviews in general.
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#4
Joyo are built by dyslexic monkeys on meth.
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#5
Any Tubescreamer or a clone of some kind will do the trick.

If you're wanting a TS pedal without spending a fortune, the Joyo Vintage Overdrive is a good call. Granted it's not built like a tank, but it'll do the job. Not a bad sound coming from such a cheap pedal. Just don't throw it about and you'll be fine But considering you have a Rectoverb, I'm guessing you have access to a bit more money, so invest in something like a proper tubescreamer
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#6
It'll do the job if all the components are actually soldered in place properly. Joyo pedals are good if you are prepared to rebuild them because they're cheaper than the cost of parts. If treated as a DIY kit they aren't too bad.
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#7
DigiTech Bad Monkey is the end all be all of cheap Tubescresmers. I would take one over a Joyo in a heartbreak.
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#8
I agree, when it comes to cheap tubescreamers, the Bad Monkey is the business. I've been using one myself. I still say a 10 band MXR is what I'd want most though. Both is what you really want.
If you've got the cash to spend, I'd go an MXR 10 and a Green Rhino. I'd probably throw a Soul Food into the mix too, or a Timmy.
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#9
i have no experience with most of the joyos, but truthfully any TS type pedal will work great. something about the mid boost in those types of pedals really helps "tighten" up dirty tones. get the best that you can afford and look for used. all TS pedals pretty much sound exactly the same, especially in the mix.
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#11
The Bad Monkey has a bass knob too
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#12
Tubescreamer and SD1 variants are the obvious safe choices. For something different sounding Mt-2 is also good choice. Its a shit distortion pedal but good clean boost. Cannibal corpse uses one to boost a Mesa.

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#13
Oh... by clean boost you mean overdrive...
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#14
Thank you all for the suggestions. I used to own a MT-2 and hated it. I will probably go with a tube screamer or a clone.

If I end up also buying an eq. such as the mxr-10, should I still use the tone controls on the amp or set them all to noon and only use the eq?
#15
Quote by helies
Thank you all for the suggestions. I used to own a MT-2 and hated it. I will probably go with a tube screamer or a clone.

If I end up also buying an eq. such as the mxr-10, should I still use the tone controls on the amp or set them all to noon and only use the eq?


Get the tone as good as you can on the amp, and then use the EQ to really nail what you want it to do.

Keep in mind that if you're using an EQ up front as a boost like Cath is suggesting, the actual tone shaping power it has will be quite subdued, as opposed to using it "properly" in the FX Loop.
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#16
Any tubescreamer/overdrive will do my friend. Gain - 0, Tone - Half, Volume - Full and it should sound great, i use those settings with my tubescreamer on my boss gt-10, not a real pedal but it sounds just like the real thing to me (i've tested side by side). Don't use a distortion pedal to boost your signal unless you can return it, imo overdrive pedals preserve your tone a lot better yet still tighten the low end.
#17
Quote by helies
Thank you all for the suggestions. I used to own a MT-2 and hated it. I will probably go with a tube screamer or a clone.

If I end up also buying an eq. such as the mxr-10, should I still use the tone controls on the amp or set them all to noon and only use the eq?


You were probably using it as an actual distortion pedal. They shite at that. But apparently as a boost (vol max, gain 0) they are good, for stuff like death metal.