Poll: Which Should I go with ( If you dont feel like explaining)
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View poll results: Which Should I go with ( If you dont feel like explaining)
Option One
2 29%
Option Two
5 71%
Voters: 7.
#1
Ok so I'm fairly new to guitar, I've only been playing for about a month. I have one electric and one acoustic, i.e. a fender Starcaster and a Peavey acoustic. I'm looking to save up and buy some new equipment. I have two options considering my budget of about $700 by the end of the summer:

Option One:
  • A used Gibson Les PAul Studio

(That's it)


Option Two:
  • A Squier Vintage Modified Jaguar - 3-Color Sunburst


  • A Jackson JS23 Dinky Jackson Special Run - Satin Gray


  • A Fender 25R Frontman Series II 25W 1x10 Amp


  • A DigiTech DDM Death Metal Distortion Guitar Effects Pedal


  • And equipment including stands, straps, new pics, and some books


(links to some: Fender from Option 2 , Jackson from option 2 , Fender Amp , Distortion Pedal )

(By the way I aslo want to know if i should buy the fender guitar, if i do, in candy apple red or in the sunburst!)

I'd like the Jackson for metal and hard rock soloing and the fender for rhythm and less metally stuff if that makes sense.

But on the other hand I'd like the Les Paul because so many of the greatest guitarists used it and its an all around great guitar and by far my favorite.

Your Help is much appreciated!!!!!
Last edited by rock_on_625 at Mar 10, 2014,
#2
rethink option 2. that amp sucks for metal, the death metal pedal sucks period and the jag is wrong for that style of music (but is great for others). for $700 you could get a used Peavey 6505+ combo and a guitar that would work better for what you seem to want.
#3
Ok so let me clear up a few things. I already have tried the dinky and know its good for metal and the pedal has excellent reviews on guitar center.com for the $50 it it. I also cant afford a $500 amp and therefore was wanting to buy and decent practice amp for home and buy a metal pedal for metal effects on certain songs(This particular one was suggested to my by my instructer). Fenders have all around good playing styles and the squier is cheaper than the strat so that is my reasoning for this choice.(It's also a few steps up from the starcaster which I have). I made this threat only to see if you guys thought that the gibson les paul was all it is said to be and is worth that much more than a few cheaper guitars and some equipment.
#4
Instead of buying a shitty practice amp, get Overloud TH2 or Guitar rig or Riffstation, or even a decent Mulft FX pedal, run it into your PC and then run that out through a sound system, you wont pick the difference.

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#5
If you're only planning on playing through headphones and/or interfacing with your PC for the forseeable future, consider a portable digital modeling device like one of these (some are discontinued, can still be easily found) instead of a cheap amp:

Boss Micro-BR 4 track
http://www.guitarcenter.com/-i1169092.gc

Boss Micro-BR 80
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BR80/

Pocket POD
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Line-6-Pocket-POD-Guitar-Multi-Effects-Processor-104391875-i1173933.gc

Tascam GT-R1
http://www.guitarcenter.com/TASCAM-GT-R1-Portable-Guitar-Bass-Recorder-105125306-i1401677.gc
http://www.guitarcenter.com/TASCAM-DR-1-GT-R1-Accessory-Kit-105020473-i1402140.gc

Korg Pandora Mini
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Korg-Pandora-Mini-PXMINI-Guitar-Multi-Effects-Processor-H70754-i1746466.gc

Korg Px4
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Korg-Pandora-PX4D-Guitar-Multi-Effects-Processor-103381554-i1124641.gc

Korg Pandora Stomp
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PandoraSTOr/

Korg Px5
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Korg-Pandora-PX5D-Guitar-Multi-Effects-Processor-104821715-i1387080.gc

Here is a visual comparison of (left to right) Tascam, my PX-5 and one of my Px4s to my old Aiwa cassette player:



Only the Tascam has decent acoustic recording capacity. All DO have features like tuners, metronomes, drum synthesizers, and digital amp & pedal modeling.

So with decent headphones, you can rock out like you were playing Texas Stadium. And yes, they are all about the size of an old Walkman.

The ones I own: the Tascam has the external mics, a phrase trainer (loop & slow down stuff for practicing), and takes SD cards. Both it and the PX5 can connect directly to your computer via a USB port. It is less powerful than the PX5, but, oddly, the PX5 does not have a belt/strap hook.

The ones I don't own: The Line6 PocketPOD is, I believe, the most popular device like this; the Boss might be the most powerful (and priciest); the Pandora Mini is the smallest (its about the size of a stack of business cards), cheapest, and least powerful.
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#6
As for guitar, here's a couple of suggestions that are from brands I know pretty well.

The Reverend Bayonet is a really good guitar for harder rock genres. The RailHammer Anvil & Chisel pickups will handle downtuned metal better than most designs.
https://reverb.com/item/72575-reverend-bayonet-electrical-guitar

Nearly all of Fernandes' entire line is aimed towards harder rock genres. Currently, they're having a clearance sale of limited quantities of their guitars from their direct sales website. Prices are low, but went they're sold out, they're gone for good. I'd recommend you a Dragonfly, Monterey, or Ravelle of some kind.
http://www.fernandesguitarshop.com/
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#7
i wouldn't really do either.

look around for a while. DON'T buy the fender amp.demo what you can.

FIY in general cheap distortion pedals suck.

OD's are fine though.
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#8
Quote by rock_on_625
Ok so let me clear up a few things. I already have tried the dinky and know its good for metal and the pedal has excellent reviews on guitar center.com for the $50 it it. I also cant afford a $500 amp and therefore was wanting to buy and decent practice amp for home and buy a metal pedal for metal effects on certain songs(This particular one was suggested to my by my instructer). Fenders have all around good playing styles and the squier is cheaper than the strat so that is my reasoning for this choice.(It's also a few steps up from the starcaster which I have). I made this threat only to see if you guys thought that the gibson les paul was all it is said to be and is worth that much more than a few cheaper guitars and some equipment.


reviews from some 15 yr old kid on GC mean little. take my word for it the death metal pedal is a big disappointment. yes fender makes good guitars (I'm a big strat guy) but they aren't even close to the best choice for really heavy metal. there are any number of better choices for amps like the Peavey Vypyr series which will give you the metal sound you want right off the bat. as for the LP sure that is a very worthy purchase but serves no purpose if you don't have anything decent to play it through. kinda like buying a Ferrari but only driving it in the city.
#9
Likewise, as a Fender amp owner, I can tell you that while they're well made and sound great in all kinds of genres, they're terrible for metal.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
#10
Ok thanks on the pedal input ill scratch that. I'm not looking to play metal on the fender- just the dinky cause it was suggested to me by my friend who has quite a lot of experience and actually has the guitar itself. I was looking into the squier as a cheaper alternative of the strat but nicer than the starcaster for playing different generas - as an all around guitar. I understand that the peavys are goof for metal but i unfortunately don't have the money. Im not looking to play JUST metal. I just need something better than my peice of shit that i have now. Btw thanks for everyone's input!
#12
I have the Frontman amp and while everyone else is poo-poo'ing it :-), If you want an inexpensive amp that handles clean input, it works great. If you are looking for effects, you might want to look into the Vyper series from Peavey. They are inexpensive and have a lot of neat effects to simulate pedals etc. Good Luck!
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