#1
Hello,
what are some good pickups that offer me a different tone that the usual EMG 81, 85 and 60? I'd like to have it less compressed, with a wider range then those pickups, more natural. Will be used for cleans and heavy distortion, alot of fast downpickings and melodic solos.
Can be active or passive

my amp: EVH 5150 III 50W

thanks
#2
Have you tried 18v mod? This increases the dynamic range of EMG 81 dramatically.

You could try Seymour Duncan Blackouts. Its a direct swap, no need to change pots and jacks like going passive would need.

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#4
If you want actives, the EMG X series are soposed to be more passive like. The Seymour Duncan Blackouts are also nice and have a more organic/open tone than the EMG.

Seymour Duncan SH-6 is a great passive pickup. You can also look at Bare Knuckle if you want to spend some money
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Seymour Duncan JB's, good for pretty much anything you want to play.
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do two batteries fit inside the guitar?

get an adapter to do this http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr151/zakkwyldefan79/EMG%2018v%20Mod/EMG18VoltMod3.jpg

2 batteries should fit , put another battery in the cavity and see
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#7
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Yup. You can find ones in ebay (search EMG 18v) if you dont want to make one yourself.

do two batteries fit inside the guitar?


Try. If propably wont fit in the battery slot if your guitar came with EMG 81 stock, but inside control cavity there should be enough room for another battery duct taped into a wall.

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#9
I think the AHB-2 was a hotter one and based on Seymour Duncan Livewire. And then there is the AHB-3, Mick Thomson signature pickup which is really hot and very midrange heavy or so I remember. Check SD website for specifics.

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#10
I'm a fan of the Crunchlab/Liquifier combo. If you have some spare cash, Bareknuckle's Aftermath set is my all time favorite for metal. Although for much less, you could get a Seymour Duncan Nazgul/Sentient set. Seymour Duncan also has a 'tone chart' on their site for pickups, where it has recordings of the same riff, recorded through the same amp, with the same guitar, just different pickups.
#11
How 'bout a duncan distortion?
I mean, "less compressed, with a wider range then those pickups, more natural." doesn't really seem to suggest active pickups in general if ya ask me.
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Well, I think you'll want passives since you want a wider range of tones and better cleans. That being said, you'll definitely need to put different pots in you guitar- you have active pickups right now, so you've most likely got 25k pots, and you'll probably want 500k pots for passive pickups. Along with that swap, you'll definitely want to check the dimensions of your pickups- some guitars with active pickups may not be able to fit passives unless you do some routing. Either way, it's definitely an upgrade going from active to passive. I'd recommend the Seymour Duncan JB and Jazz set- they'll get you to do about anything you need to do. The Crunch Lab and Liquifire from Dimarzio are really great too.

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I mean, "less compressed, with a wider range then those pickups, more natural." doesn't really seem to suggest active pickups in general if ya ask me.


That's what I was thinking- though I haven't tried every single active pickup which is available and there may well be some which would do what he wants.
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Well, I think you'll want passives since you want a wider range of tones and better cleans. That being said, you'll definitely need to put different pots in you guitar- you have active pickups right now, so you've most likely got 25k pots, and you'll probably want 500k pots for passive pickups. Along with that swap, you'll definitely want to check the dimensions of your pickups- some guitars with active pickups may not be able to fit passives unless you do some routing. Either way, it's definitely an upgrade going from active to passive. I'd recommend the Seymour Duncan JB and Jazz set- they'll get you to do about anything you need to do. The Crunch Lab and Liquifire from Dimarzio are really great too.

I don't have actives right now, I have passives
#15
Isn't there something in the middle between actives and passives (by sound I mean)?
#16
The Duncan Distortion should get you a nice tight sound.

I've also seen some guys that play in C standard use Duncan 59s. That sounded pretty tight as well, and the 59 can get great cleans.
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Do the blackouts sound like a mix of actives and passives?


Not at all. They're actives and sound like a typical active pickup.

I don't think there's anything that sounds like a mix of active and passives.
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Isn't there something in the middle between actives and passives (by sound I mean)?


Yes, that is exactly the goal/purpose that the Seymour Duncan Blackouts and the EMG X series try to achieve.

The Blackouts are more compressed than EMG X. Blackouts came out to offer that in between ground, and since that's kind of shitting on EMGs turf, EMG came out with the X series and one upped them on organicness.

That's how it played out to me anyway.

I actually prefer Blackouts, I think they retain just enough of the active nature/sound without going too organic like the Xs do.

But obviously you should compare them, listen to as many clips as you possibly can to get a feel of what they're like.

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what is the difference between the SD blackouts AHB-1 and 2?


The AHB-1s are the only good ones in my opinion. The 2s and 3s have too much output and defeat the purpose. I've come to the conclusion through the good handful of pickups I've tried that super high output is almost always a bad thing. Let the amp do the heavy lifting.
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#21
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Not at all. They're actives and sound like a typical active pickup.

I don't think there's anything that sounds like a mix of active and passives.


It does sound quite a bit different from EMG 81 though. EMG 81 is infamous for being really compressed, the preamp is actually clipping. This is something 18v mod fixes, as does the improved version EMG 81X.

That is actually another thing you might try. The X series.

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#22
if you have an amp that does high gain, which the 5150 III achieves, try passive pickups. For thrash listen to Warbringer - that's a Seymour Duncan JB through a Mesa. . . . The theory is to let the passive pickups bring out the sound of the guitar and let the amp provide all the gain you need. Death Angel, at least the rhythm, switches between high output passives and EMG 81s through a Mesa Mark V (EC3 channel I believe). Alex Skolnick of Testament uses passives into his Buddha. In other words if you have an amp that does high gain, why do you need the pickups to provide high output/gain as well when the only sound coming from the guitar is provided by the pickups? If you don't have a high gain amp then the actives get attractive to pull off the sound you want at the cost of the guitar's sound not really coming through.
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#24
I think I've got exactly what your looking for. The dimarzio D activators are passive pickups that have tonal qualities of actives. Beautiful beautiful gorgeous cleans (especially if you cool split them) but the distortion blows away the emgs I had in it before. The d activators are designed to hit the amp hard (which is why actives are so loud and good for metal, they're not super high output they just slam it into the amp) so you get that same in your face distortion except much wider. And more natural sounding. Less impressed as well but just as tight with the low end chugs. It's handled all the distortion I've thrown at it (which is unlawful amounts) magnificently. Obnoxiously quiet as well.
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