#1
-UPDATE-

I decided to dig through my stuff and work with what I had because everything on Youtube was sounding like shit to me. I worked out a setup that doesn't sound thin and anemic or all bass with no mids or highs. Could use a bit more low mids and maybe a bit less bass, but I literally threw this together and EQd it in about 2 minutes.


http://youtu.be/SiCIBNYT6Vg


Just curious how they stack up to each other IRL.

I've heard decent sounds out of both on Youtube, but also heard awful sounds of both on Youtube, so it's hard to tell.

Looking for a relatively cheap metal dirt pedal to dick around with through my VHT so I don't have to boot up my Vypyr every time I want to play teh brootz.

Just in case I have to inb4, not interested in MXR, EHX or Boss. I've heard and used them all a bunch, they're all shit. Looking for clarity, no excessive high end, no crazy mid scoop, enough gain and low mids for Bloodbath style riffs and Djenty stuff.

I'm not looking for something like a POD right now because I want something small I can just throw on the board and take off real quick.

I don't really want to spend more than $50. I've seen the Rottweiler go for about $70, I guess that'd be my very top end.
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
Last edited by Offworld92 at Mar 25, 2014,
#2
what you really need is a new amp lol.

I like the Rottweiler personally but the TL wasn't bad at all. honestly unless you are going to be using it a lot, id go TL.
Ibanez SIR27
Pod HD500x

RIP:
Mesa Boogie Roadster 2x12 combo
Cmatmods analog chorus, phaser, tremoglo, signa drive, butah, and deeelay
walrus Audio Descent
#3
I have a little GAS for an Engl Fireball 100 at the moment.

But there's just no need as I'm not playing guitar in any brootz bands right now, and if there is ever an emergency where I need to, the Vypyr is loud enough.
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
#4
I finally got to play the tube vypyr not to long ago and if I wasn't able to play at the volumes I wanted to, I would buy one. I was impressed. Still want to try a special six though.

Edit: and a snott watt and toll free express. Though two amps would fill my mini amp desires.
Ibanez SIR27
Pod HD500x

RIP:
Mesa Boogie Roadster 2x12 combo
Cmatmods analog chorus, phaser, tremoglo, signa drive, butah, and deeelay
walrus Audio Descent
#5
My perception of it is a little skewed because I run a lot of effects into it. If I'm brutally honest, it is a little bland and dry on its own. And the more I play with it, the more I wish I had gotten something with a gain knob on it.

I love the sound I get when I have a ****ton of reverb, delay and shimmer going into it though.
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
#6
You could probably add a PPIMV. Find me a schematic.


Edit: oops, it's s/e class A isn't it? Still, find me a schematic and let's take a looksee.
Gilchrist custom
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Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
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Last edited by Cathbard at Mar 21, 2014,
#7
The TL-2 is great for ridiculous amounts of tweakable gain. If you want thunk-thunk medium gain sounds it’s probably not the right way to go. If you want apeshit 90s metal buzzsaw sounds it could work.
#10
Quote by bluestratplayer
actually that wasn't the ultra
http://www.vhtamp.com/images/Manuals/vht%20special%206%20ultra%20manual.pdf
that's the manual for the ultra schematics on last page


+1 thanks
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
#11
No problem, gave me something to pass my insomnia time. Wish it would have taken longer though lol, bing brought it up first result.
Ibanez SIR27
Pod HD500x

RIP:
Mesa Boogie Roadster 2x12 combo
Cmatmods analog chorus, phaser, tremoglo, signa drive, butah, and deeelay
walrus Audio Descent
#12
A pot in the FX loop would work as well as anything really. One of those el cheapo ebay "attenuator that aint a real attenuator" doovers. ie a pot in a box.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#13
Quote by Cathbard
A pot in the FX loop would work as well as anything really. One of those el cheapo ebay "attenuator that aint a real attenuator" doovers. ie a pot in a box.


Thanks. How would that give me a gain control though, rather than just more controllable volume? Crank the FX loop volume and turn down amp volume? Or Vice versa?

Maybe I'll throw my Fish & Chips in there tomorrow and play around with it.

I'll need a new boost for my board.
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
Last edited by Offworld92 at Mar 21, 2014,
#14
Your volume becomes your gain control and the "attenuator" becomes your MV.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#15
-UPDATE-

I decided to dig through my stuff and work with what I had because everything on Youtube was sounding like shit to me. I worked out a setup that doesn't sound thin and anemic or all bass with no mids or highs. Could use a bit more low mids and maybe a bit less bass, but I literally threw this together and EQd it in about 2 minutes.


http://youtu.be/SiCIBNYT6Vg
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
#16
On a second look, there is a better alternative that should work better. Replace R37 with a 250KA pot (R38 connected to the wiper). That will allow you to drive an extra triode (V2b) into clipping over what the "attenuator" would.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#17
Quote by Cathbard
On a second look, there is a better alternative that should work better. Replace R37 with a 250KA pot (R38 connected to the wiper). That will allow you to drive an extra triode (V2b) into clipping over what the "attenuator" would.


Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
#18
And as for the overdrives, nobody else had said it so I will; Klon.

Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band