#1
Hi guys,
I'm thinking of buying a PRS SE custom 24 for a second guitar, to go alongside a Gibson 2012 les paul standard. I Love the gibson but need another guitar for alternate tunings and also like guitars with dual cutaways. Only thing is, I've read reviews that It's not so great when it comes to anything high gain. For heavier stuff (Alter bridge, Metallica, Tool), do you guys think I'm better getting the SE Tremonti custom, or potentially something different entirely? (I won't go second hand and can spend a maximum of £650 GBP)
Thanks guys
#2
The Custom 24 will be absolutely fine for the music you want to do.
The Tremonti SE is a great guitar and one of the best values of the SE line IMO.


Why not buy used though you can get a way better instrument? it is your money so you can do what you want, just don't discount used gear 100%
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#3
"Light metal"? You mean hard rock?

That PRS should serve you just fine. But the reason it won't be great for anything heavier (think Death Metal or Grindcore or other forms of extreme metal) is probably the pickup output. So, if you just want to play Metallica ('90s era), Alter Bridge, and Tool...you'll be fine. If you start wanting to play Death Metal, you might get a muddy sound.
#4
Ok thanks guys. just out of interest, which would you say you prefered; the custom 24 or the temonti? I'm not planing on playing death metal anytime soon so one of the two seems like a good option
#5
Well I own a CE22 so I like the classic PRS shape. I have been debating on getting a used SE singlecut ($300 used) or a G&L ASAT.

I deff prefer the PRS tremolo over the wraparound versions, and I don't use a trem hardly ever.
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The Tremonti is just a regular SE Singlecut with a more expensive price tag. Spec-wise they are absolutely identical. PRS stopped making the Singlecut a little while back, but a few stores still have them in stock and you can find them second hand very easily; just do a bit of a search.

As for the Tremonti (or SInglecut) and the Custom 24, they're effectively identical if you're talking about the fixed bridge versions. The Custom 24 can be had with a 6-screw vibrato, which is the onyl difference in a practical sense. Of course the body shapes are different, as are the types of pickup selector switch they use, but that's just down to personal preference. The woods, pickups and necks are identical.

Just bear in mind that the PRS SEs are standard MIK guitars, cranked out of the same factory as many other (cheaper!) brands. Your money will go further if you look at other MIK brands, like Schecter, Tokai, Cort, Washburn and ESP. The 25" scale length is pretty much the only thing exclusive to the PRS SE models, and even that really is hardly any different from the 24.75" scale commonly offered by many other brands.
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The Tremonti is just a regular SE Singlecut with a more expensive price tag. Spec-wise they are absolutely identical. PRS stopped making the Singlecut a little while back, but a few stores still have them in stock and you can find them second hand very easily; just do a bit of a search.

As for the Tremonti (or SInglecut) and the Custom 24, they're effectively identical if you're talking about the fixed bridge versions. The Custom 24 can be had with a 6-screw vibrato, which is the onyl difference in a practical sense. Of course the body shapes are different, as are the types of pickup selector switch they use, but that's just down to personal preference. The woods, pickups and necks are identical.

Just bear in mind that the PRS SEs are standard MIK guitars, cranked out of the same factory as many other (cheaper!) brands. Your money will go further if you look at other MIK brands, like Schecter, Tokai, Cort, Washburn and ESP. The 25" scale length is pretty much the only thing exclusive to the PRS SE models, and even that really is hardly any different from the 24.75" scale commonly offered by many other brands.

The Tremonti SE is the cheapest PRS SE that has been in constant production. Well it is here in the states
But yeah pretty much everything else is right, but the Tremonti SE was solid Mahogany and the Single-cut has a maple cap w/ flame veneer
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#9
How good is PRS for light metal?

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Just bear in mind that the PRS SEs are standard MIK guitars, cranked out of the same factory as many other (cheaper!) brands. Your money will go further if you look at other MIK brands, like Schecter, Tokai, Cort, Washburn and ESP. The 25" scale length is pretty much the only thing exclusive to the PRS SE models, and even that really is hardly any different from the 24.75" scale commonly offered by many other brands.


I don't think tokai makes guitars in korea any more, I think they've moved to china.

Other than that, I agree with you. I haven't tried any for a while but I thought the SEs I tried were about on par with other midrange MIKs, yet are a fair bit more money.
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#11
Just swapped the pickups out on my PRS custom 24 SE to some IronGears, Makes such a big improvement on sound. (i use it for Alter Bridge/Funeral for a Friend kinda stuff)
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#12
What bands are light metal? Just out of interest.
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#13
A7x and Trivium.


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Trivium don't suck though.
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They're pretty weaksauce.
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Opinions. I think they do suck. What now?!

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Story of your life?
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Not really, I just enjoy listening to Trivium.
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Not really, I just enjoy listening to Trivium.

I would agree.
Some think that Trivium one of those bands that almost seem like sell outs like some other bands out there....cough...cough... a7x
Only reason I think differently than above is I've seen videos with Matt heafy and he seems like a nice guy, and he is a talented player
On the OP, Definetly go for a Prs anything,just make sure to play before buying.Have you listened to Tremontis solo album? Prs are pretty good for metal I think..
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Not really, I just enjoy listening to Trivium.

Yeah, fair enough. But you did kind of set yourself up for that.
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Hi guys,
I'm thinking of buying a PRS SE custom 24 for a second guitar, to go alongside a Gibson 2012 les paul standard. I Love the gibson but need another guitar for alternate tunings and also like guitars with dual cutaways. Only thing is, I've read reviews that It's not so great when it comes to anything high gain. For heavier stuff (Alter bridge, Metallica, Tool), do you guys think I'm better getting the SE Tremonti custom, or potentially something different entirely? (I won't go second hand and can spend a maximum of £650 GBP)
Thanks guys


Check out the SE Torero. I've had one for about 4 years and it absolutely kicks ass. Beautiful guitar. Amazing tone, and super easy to play, and I think you will get the sound you want for hard rock, metal, and it sounds very nice clean too. I don't know how much they go for in the UK, but I got mine here (US) for just under $1000, so I think it will probably work for your budget, or at least be close. Good luck with deciding on your new baby!
#23
In the UK the SE Torero costs more than the new Gibson SGs and LPs and is essentially just a Charvel Desolation Soloist model with a higher price tag.

PRS have kinda priced themselves out of the reasonable market, here.
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I myself have played 3 Torero's and I thought they were OK. I didn't think they were great though, nothing about them was really anything to be wowed at given the thousands of guitars out there with specs that are almost identical to it.
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#26
I own a SE Custom 24. It's a good guitar, but stock it does leave a few things wanting. The best thing about it is it's playability and versatility. I frets are nicely finished and the guitar plays really nicely (to me). The coil split is also a great feature when you want some more Fenderish cleans. My model doesn't stay in tune that well. The trem isn't that great, which is disappointing for a $600 guitar. I am more impressed with my Agile AL3100, but when I do some upgrades to my PRS it will be a great guitar.

As far as metal goes, there's no problem there. The pickups aren't low output pickups or anything.