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From my understanding, hip hop. But I don't have a formal education on the stylings of Da Revrund \m/
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Honestly, I've had enough of this debate. Does it really matter? Does it matter if they are rock, or hard rock, or metal, or metal core, or whatever people want to label them as? They play music with loud guitars, in your face vocals, and pounding drums. And no matter what you want to label it, it doesn't change how it sounds. I just wish everyone could just accept it as music and get over the stupid classification of it. rant over.
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Quote by fagelamusgtr
Honestly, I've had enough of this debate. Does it really matter? Does it matter if they are rock, or hard rock, or metal, or metal core, or whatever people want to label them as? They play music with loud guitars, in your face vocals, and pounding drums. And no matter what you want to label it, it doesn't change how it sounds. I just wish everyone could just accept it as music and get over the stupid classification of it. rant over.

That's the thing, it doesn't matter. Some of there stuff would clearly fall under the metal category. Then I could see how songs like "Gunslinger" or "Seize The Day" would fall under the rock category.

There is no sense in labeling anything. For example, I used to be one of those kids who thought that Trivium was shitty, or wasn't "trv metal." Simply because of what other people said about them and labeled them. Then I actually gave them a listen and their "Shogun" album turned out to be one of my favorite albums. Now I could care less what people call them, or any band for that matter, I'll listen to them with an open mind and base my opinion like that.
My rant, over
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pretty sure it's glam metal, or hair metal, whatever name you fancy
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Quote by fagelamusgtr
Honestly, I've had enough of this debate. Does it really matter? Does it matter if they are rock, or hard rock, or metal, or metal core, or whatever people want to label them as? They play music with loud guitars, in your face vocals, and pounding drums. And no matter what you want to label it, it doesn't change how it sounds. I just wish everyone could just accept it as music and get over the stupid classification of it. rant over.

But thats the thing... its not actually music anyways.

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Quote by Sir Stoney
That's the thing, it doesn't matter. Some of there stuff would clearly fall under the metal category. Then I could see how songs like "Gunslinger" or "Seize The Day" would fall under the rock category.

There is no sense in labeling anything. For example, I used to be one of those kids who thought that Trivium was shitty, or wasn't "trv metal." Simply because of what other people said about them and labeled them. Then I actually gave them a listen and their "Shogun" album turned out to be one of my favorite albums. Now I could care less what people call them, or any band for that matter, I'll listen to them with an open mind and base my opinion like that.
My rant, over

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But thats the thing... its not actually music anyways.

And this attitude is what we call "extreme elitism". It's characterized by referring to atonal music as NOT MUSIC and music that isn't complex enough as NOT MUSIC. Among other things.

OT:
Yes, Avenged Sevenfold is metal. It fits the basic qualifications. It's just not particularly interesting or good metal. In other words, A7X is BORING.
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Quote by crazysam23_Atax
OH, HEY! LET'S FORGET ABOUT NAMING THINGS PROPERLY AND JUST DANCE AROUND WITH FLOWERS IN OUR HAIR AND WEED BONGS IN OUR HANDS! Damn hippy attitudes...


And this attitude is what we call "extreme elitism". It's characterized by referring to atonal music as NOT MUSIC and music that isn't complex enough as NOT MUSIC. Among other things.

OT:
Yes, Avenged Sevenfold is metal. It fits the basic qualifications. It's just not particularly interesting or good metal. In other words, A7X is BORING.


Did I say anything about not naming things properly? Assumptions don't get you anywhere.

The point of what I said was that, due to these excessive labels, we have divided music. Now people ONLY listen to certain sub genres just because of what some dick head said in a forum about a style of metal.

I'm not saying we shouldn't name things properly, I'm just saying you shouldn't get butthurt about it when someone doesn't dick ride the sub genre train. I certainly don't care. I'm not gonna go around calling Madonna metal or anything like that, but Jesus Christ. Even if I did, who the **** cares? Obviously the usual neckbearded guy behind a keyboard does.

By the way, what's wrong with me smoking pot? Does it affect you? No it doesn't. Sounds like to me you need to relax a bit, buddy ol' pal.
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Quote by fagelamusgtr
Honestly, I've had enough of this debate. Does it really matter? Does it matter if they are rock, or hard rock, or metal, or metal core, or whatever people want to label them as? They play music with loud guitars, in your face vocals, and pounding drums. And no matter what you want to label it, it doesn't change how it sounds. I just wish everyone could just accept it as music and get over the stupid classification of it. rant over.


so true
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Quote by Sir Stoney
The point of what I said was that, due to these excessive labels, we have divided music.


You're right. You're completely right and there's no problem with that. Not at all. Not even a little bit. People looking for metal don't want to listen to blues right now, they want metal. We label to divide so we can consume efficiently.

Now people ONLY listen to certain sub genres just because of what some dick head said in a forum about a style of metal.


Not a real thing.

I'm not saying we shouldn't name things properly, I'm just saying you shouldn't get butthurt about it when someone doesn't dick ride the sub genre train.


You are saying that because you've been arguing against labels in your last two posts.

I certainly don't care.


Well your rant and this portion of text dictates otherwise.

I'm not gonna go around calling Madonna metal or anything like that, but Jesus Christ. Even if I did, who the **** cares? Obviously the usual neckbearded guy behind a keyboard does.


Everybody who doesn't think Madonna is metal has a problem with that because it's wrong. Stop insulting stereotypes you typical "420 smoke em up" goon.

By the way, what's wrong with me smoking pot? Does it affect you?


Yes. Nobody likes you when you do drugs because you post online.
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I personally thought of them as a rock band. Then I heard a conversation where someone asked "What sort of music do you like?" the guy said "Metal" then got asked "What's your favorite metal band?" and he said "Avenged Sevenfold" - which surprised me!
I thought their melodies sound much"nicer" than typical metal and combined with mostly cleanish vocals I figured rock, kind of like the 90s Green Day of the 2010s with better songwriting. I'll say their drums have the metal thing going on most. But whatever, if you like the music who cares what it is.
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Quote by crazysam23_Atax
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ha ha nice story FAG
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You're right. You're completely right and there's no problem with that. Not at all. Not even a little bit. People looking for metal don't want to listen to blues right now, they want metal. We label to divide so we can consume efficiently.


Not a real thing.


You are saying that because you've been arguing against labels in your last two posts.


Well your rant and this portion of text dictates otherwise.


Everybody who doesn't think Madonna is metal has a problem with that because it's wrong. Stop insulting stereotypes you typical "420 smoke em up" goon.


Yes. Nobody likes you when you do drugs because you post online.


You fail to see my point. Yeah, music needs genres so people will kind of know what to look for. Like "Metal, blues, rock, jazz, etc." It's just when people feel they have go out of their way to be a genre nazi. I'm not saying music should be in one giant group. It's the sub-sub-genres that seem really silly. I'm not saying they shouldn't exist or what not. It's just when people get emotional over if someone says a band is the incorrect sub genre of a sub genre. They seem to think it's the end of the world. I just find it slightly irritating when I call a band "metal", and they say " NO MAN. That's not METAL! They are 90s progressive technical death metal with a hint of jazz fusion!" It's Like it's a stab at their personal beliefs or I called their mom a whale.

By the way, did I say anything about "420 smoke em up goon?" Jesus Christ, you'd think I was Hitler just because I smoke a little bit of pot.
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They're pretty much a modern Guns N' Roses.

At least they are now.

Old Stuff = Metalcore, new stuff = Rock/Hard Rock.
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Quote by Sir Stoney
It's just when people get emotional over if someone says a band is the incorrect sub genre of a sub genre. They seem to think it's the end of the world. I just find it slightly irritating when I call a band "metal", and they say " NO MAN. That's not METAL! They are 90s progressive technical death metal with a hint of jazz fusion!" It's Like it's a stab at their personal beliefs or I called their mom a whale.

This doesn't happen. Ever. It's a bullshit stereotype created by idiots who are angry because Slipknot and Asking Alexandria and Avenged Sevenfold aren't metal and therefore every metalhead is just a close-minded subsubsubsubgenre-fellating elitist.
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I just find it slightly irritating when I call a band "metal", and they say " NO MAN. That's not METAL! They are 90s progressive technical death metal with a hint of jazz fusion!"


If they are a metal band, why would anybody get mad at you for calling them a metal band? Clearly that doesn't ever happen to you.

Actually, you seem to be making everything in your posts up since none of any of that stuff that you are talking about really happens the way you say it does. You're just basing your arguments on baseless, highly exaggerated stereotypes rather than actual facts.

You can't just go around making things up.
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Quote by crazysam23_Atax

And this attitude is what we call "extreme elitism". It's characterized by referring to atonal music as NOT MUSIC and music that isn't complex enough as NOT MUSIC. Among other things.


Yeah and referring to BTBAM as music is also extreme elitism. Get over yourself.

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Such an extreme elitist story at that.

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Dat strawman doe


Makes sense that he would use a strawman argument though.

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Get a #%$@ing life or you will get banned for life.


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Quote by Sir Stoney
Did I say anything about not naming things properly? Assumptions don't get you anywhere.

The point of what I said was that, due to these excessive labels, we have divided music. Now people ONLY listen to certain sub genres just because of what some dick head said in a forum about a style of metal.

Except...they don't. People listen to music because they like it. It just so happens that, if I liked a band that is Doom Metal and wanted to hear more of that style, it makes it easier for people to tell me what to try out if either I say, "Suggest more Doom Metal". OR people recognize that when I say, "Give me more like X band" that I'm talking about a Doom Metal band and want more Doom Metal.

Imagine if there were no subgenres. It would be that much harder to suggest things. People classify things into subgenres because there's typically bands that have similar traits. Calling every metal band "metal" is just maddeningly unhelpful. There's so many different styles of Metal that it's very inefficient to call it all JUST "metal". This isn't the '70s, where Metal hasn't diversified and branched out and so on yet!

I'm not saying we shouldn't name things properly, I'm just saying you shouldn't get butthurt about it when someone doesn't dick ride the sub genre train.

Who really does this?

I certainly don't care. I'm not gonna go around calling Madonna metal or anything like that, but Jesus Christ. Even if I did, who the **** cares? Obviously the usual neckbearded guy behind a keyboard does.

All right. Go starting telling your friends that Madonna is metal. They'll either ignore you or laugh at you. Post back with results please.

My point is, people care, because it helps people to classify things into certain genres and styles based on similar sounds/themes/etc. Even non-Metalheads are not going to take you seriously if you decide to start calling Madonna anything besides "Pop".

Also, Metalheads are HARDLY the only ones who do this. Hardcore, as an over-arching genre, is just as bad. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hardcore_genres#Subgenres_of_Hardcore_music .) So is Punk Rock. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_rock_subgenres#Punk_rock_subgenres.) And EDM is ever worse. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_electronic_music_genres.)

By the way, what's wrong with me smoking pot? Does it affect you? No it doesn't. Sounds like to me you need to relax a bit, buddy ol' pal.

Nothing. That part was a joke.

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Yeah and referring to BTBAM as music is also extreme elitism. Get over yourself.

That didn't even make logical sense, man.
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Meh i'm just gonna say i think A7X is (as of right now) a hard rock/heavy metal band.
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this thread is gay7x........see what I did there?!?! DO U SEE?!?!?
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Why do A7X never play anything from their first album?

Why do bands do that?
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because its really hard to remember 359438 songs of completely tasteless wankery
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Quote by jamesiles2004
Why do A7X never play anything from their first album?

Why do bands do that?

Because the radio-boy fanbase that they have acquired due to their later albums would run screaming and crying at the harsher/more raw sound of their first album. Most of their fans aren't even aware that they had a first album.
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Because the radio-boy fanbase that they have acquired due to their later albums would run screaming and crying at the harsher/more raw sound of their first album. Most of their fans aren't even aware that they had a first album.

I thought the first two albums were best.
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