#1
Hey I've been out of the gear buying game for a while and am probably behind so I need some advice. I'm moving out from my house and spending a few months working in the prairies and I am not bringing all my gear. I decided I'm going to buy a small tube amp to take out there with me. My budget is up to $400-500 used and I want a quality combo piece less than 30watts. I want something that mainly has a smooth bluesy sound but can turn up to classic rock when necessary. I also have a mesa v-twin preamp pedal I'll take with me to help out with that. I can't think of too many things less than 30w so please send some suggestions.
#2
Quote by Necronomicon
My budget is up to $400-500 used and I want a quality combo piece less than 30watts.

So a lunchbox stack is out of the question? Only looking at combos? Because for $250 brand new you can get the orange micro terror mini half stack (lunchbox head and 1x8 cab) and don't be fooled by the money, the head kills it. Beautiful clean, great versatile tones and with the gain up can get nice classic rock tones. It honestly blew me away when I tried it. For being a tiny (20w) little thing it can get LOUD and put an OD out front and you could even get some classic metal tones as well (metallica maiden that sorta stuff). It would take up about as much if not maybe a little less than a normal combo.
Also has a headphone jack and auxiliary port if that's what floats your boat

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#3
Vox AC4 sounds like your best bet here, it's in your price range, it's tiny and it will go gt you the classic vox edge of breakup sound which is great for blues and it takes pedals really well so you're sorted if you need a bit more gain for classic rock
AC30 C2 with greenbacks

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#4
Both of the suggestions look toys to me.
An 8" cab for playing guitar isn't really ideal unless you particularly like the thing.
The thing in question is lacking bass, and you may not wanna lack in bass for playing classic rock.
The AC is even smaller IIRC, so the same applies.

I'd have a look at the egnater tweaker and the rebel the jet city twenty w combo.
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Both of the suggestions look toys to me.
An 8" cab for playing guitar isn't really ideal unless you particularly like the thing.
The thing in question is lacking bass, and you may not wanna lack in bass for playing classic rock.
The AC is even smaller IIRC, so the same applies.

I'd have a look at the egnater tweaker and the rebel the jet city twenty w combo.

^i did not think of that. I tried the micro terror through a 212, may not sound the same through a 1x8. Really is a killer head though. Egnator makes good stuff should check that out
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#7
Cool let us know what you decide upon, best of luck
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#9
The Class 5 isn't a bad choice but I gotta throw my hat in the ring with the Eganater suggestions.
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#10
Fender Super Champ XD. A really solid grab-n-go amp with just enough to run with a drummer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek6PiHd-H2U
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#11
Regardless of what that guy says in that vid, it isn't a tube amp, it's a hybrid. The preamp has a single triode buffer at the end of a purely SS preamp section. The other half of that tube is a cathodyne phase inverter. It's hybrid, end of story. Not a bad hybrid, but a hybrid nonetheless.
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#12
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Regardless of what that guy says in that vid, it isn't a tube amp, it's a hybrid. The preamp has a single triode buffer at the end of a purely SS preamp section. The other half of that tube is a cathodyne phase inverter. It's hybrid, end of story. Not a bad hybrid, but a hybrid nonetheless.


True true. A hybrid amp with modeling front end and tube output to round off the corners. It is surprisingly good tone for a small grab-n-go but I would not trade it for my Mesa. As a practice amp with some huevos... yes!
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#13
It's a pretty good amp for a hybrid. I just wanted the TS to know what it was in case it mattered to him. I think the Super Champ is a great little practice amp, I'd own one. But I'd still take an Egnater any day.
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#14
it seams as i am always recommending but haven't owned for years and didn't have one long, but a Peavey Classic 30 is a nice little all-a-round blues, classic rock type amp. if i saw one on craigslist myself for $250-300 (that may be a little low), they are nice to gig with. i just got a different combo and have always used heads cabs.
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#15
Good call. Classic 30 is a great amp.

Yeah, **** the Egnater (unless you find one for a stoopid price). Classic 30 is the go.


Edit: And stick a Scumback in it.
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#16
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Good call. Classic 30 is a great amp.

Yeah, **** the Egnater (unless you find one for a stoopid price). Classic 30 is the go.


Edit: And stick a Scumback in it.


+1

the only thing i would buy ever again from egnater is a Rebel 20/30. i owned one tweaker one renegade. i had a rebel 20 and Rebel 30 and 30 and i returned each rebel.

the renegade wasn't bad though.
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#17
I do like the classic 30 - I play through a Laney LC30 right now which is pretty similar but I'm leaving that one at home and going for the smaller one out west. I Love the fact that the 30watts get pretty loud when you crank them but I'm going to be living close quarters for a little while so I want something with a little less firepower too. Going to search Kijiji tmw and see what I can find from this list.
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#18
It's just a 1x12 combo, it's not that big. Anything smaller than a 12" speaker will be bollocks.
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#19
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It's just a 1x12 combo, it's not that big. Anything smaller than a 12" speaker will be bollocks.


+3.1415 they aren't huge amps either even being a combo.

i have a 1x12" combo, that per manual weighs 92 lbs. thats heavier than my 2x12" music man. big difference. but the Classic 30 is smaller and lighter than a lot of 1x12"s i don't know what else to really recommend. orange tiny terror? orange dual terror (i have one and love it). head is in a fitted soft case whenever you go a 1x12" cab would be easy to carry around to put it on two, but the cab kind of makes that null. IMO
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#20
The Classic 30 is only 40 lb and it's a pretty small box. It's a baby.
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#21
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Anything smaller than a 12" speaker will be bollocks.


I'd say if you want huge tone in a small amp, a 12" speaker is totally unnecessary. Sound check these tracks and see if you agree:

http://www2.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Features/en-us/10-huge-sounds-recorded-521.aspx


A slightly different approach to massive guitar tone:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jul08/articles/guitartech_0708.htm
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#22
a 10" speaker on a vintage champ if made a combo would be€ the same dimension. as Cath built one. less control less features. i have built a 1974X (again cath built one as well) but i added a PPIMV but its stil loud as all hell even with the master.
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#23
As you have the V Twin pedal, how about a Laney Cub12? 12" speaker, 15watts. Dunno about price in North America, but could be worth a look
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#24
The Bad Cat Cougar 5 might be worth checking out, i've seen a couple of used ones in your price range.
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#25
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It's just a 1x12 combo, it's not that big. Anything smaller than a 12" speaker will be bollocks.
Come on this is an exaggerated generalization, the 4x10 tweed bassman has the second best cleans ever.
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#26
He aint looking at 4x10's, he's looking at single speaker setups.
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