#1
I'm looking into tube amps for home use and jamming. I'm guessing that a 15W-20W would be good for me as I can turn it up to get breakup and such without making my ears bleed. I don't gig, just have fun at home or outside with my brother on drums and nephew on bass.


My Guitars - 2013 Gibson SG standard (57 classics) and a Godin Core HB (Godin HB pups, I think SD makes them for Godin?)*


What I/we play - Zep, Rush, Sabbath, AC/DC type for hard classic stuff. Credence, Miller, Young, Beatles type classic rock, and some modern vintage heavy like White Stripes. I do like a good clean sound for open chords from time to time however.*


I don't mind investing in a few pedals. Thinking of getting a Big Muff, and a whammy pedal of some sort. Depends on which amp I get I suppose.*


Anyhow, I had a few in mind. Wondering on everyone's thoughts.*


Traynor Guitarmate 15W

Fender Blues Jr. III

Vox AC15C1 or C2

Traynor Custom Valve 20W

Fender*'68 Custom Princeton Reverb (12W?)

Traynor Custom Special 50 (can run in 15W or 50W)
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#2
A blues jr with a marshall in a box pedal would be good. Whats your max budget?
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#3
Quote by bluestratplayer
A blues jr with a marshall in a box pedal would be good. Whats your max budget?


I could swing about $1000.00. A good amp with money left over for a pedal or two would be ideal.
#4
+1 on the Blues Junior. Consider a Peavey Classic 30 for something a little cheaper. If you look used you can definitely find one for less than $500.

http://proguitarshop.com/effects/distortion-pedals.html

^have a look there for a Marshall in a box, you're spoiled for choice. I'd recommend a Wampler Plextortion with the money saved getting a used amp.
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#5
http://used.guitarcenter.com/usedgear/index.cfm

Can go the combo route or go for the half stack. Get a nice fuzz for the white stripes. I would personally go for the head and 1960 cab but you could go with the combo and get some delay, chorus, etc pedals since the amp does some nice gain.
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#6
Check out the Randall RM20, its versatile to say the least. (I pick mine up on Monday, woooo! With the Blackface module, wooo!)

Check out the Egnater Rebel too. (I'll sell you one, lol). Its great for dirty cleans through crunchy growls
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#7
I've never found a dirt box that quite did it for me. The Egnater Rebel, Peavey Classic 30 or 50, Orange Rocker 30, Egnater Tweaker would all be good.
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#8
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I've never found a dirt box that quite did it for me. The Egnater Rebel, Peavey Classic 30 or 50, Orange Rocker 30, Egnater Tweaker would all be good.


+1 except i am not a tweaker fan. rebels are IMO far better, but i sold both my tweaker and rebel a long time ago.
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#9
There's a reason I listed the Tweaker last
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#10
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There's a reason I listed the Tweaker last


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#11
on some budgets if effects are a priority in your tone, RARELY do you want to cheap out on an amp, but Classic 30's are really the best for the money IMO you will want a boost for sure.

don't pay more than $300 on one. i bet you could find one for less.

i have played them (they were a 'house' amp at a shitty bar i played at) and that one was not the place to bring anything nice... i had a 9mm on me at all times down there lets leave it at that.

but i never had a problem with the classic 30, did a lot of different things, and i played open mic's there so sometimes you need a quick tweak and its nice to dial in.
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#12
Thanks for all the info so far.

I'm in Ontario, Canada. So I'm limited to Long and Mcquade and the smaller local shops unless I drive to Toronto. I haven't seen any Peavey amps there. I will look into them though.

I'm not looking to cheap out on an amp, I just don't think I require or want to lug around any of the bigger amps.

No thoughts on the Traynor amps? Just wondering as they're made here and quite readily available.
#13
The Traynor YCV50B is a nice amp, very Marshally sounding

I don't have much experience with the Traynor line, but I would deff give them a look if I was in your shoes
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#14
Jellotree.

Timely post. I'm interested in playing the same types of music and will soon be kicking the tires on some different amps.


How about some updates to the thread as you give some of the suggestions a try.

Man, that Peavey Classic 30 keeps coming up again and again one I need to look at, too.


Quote by trashedlostfdup
on some budgets if effects are a priority in your tone, RARELY do you want to cheap out on an amp, but Classic 30's are really the best for the money IMO you will want a boost for sure.

don't pay more than $300 on one. i bet you could find one for less.

i have played them (they were a 'house' amp at a shitty bar i played at) and that one was not the place to bring anything nice... i had a 9mm on me at all times down there lets leave it at that.

but i never had a problem with the classic 30, did a lot of different things, and i played open mic's there so sometimes you need a quick tweak and its nice to dial in.



That's a funny story.

Of all the things I've considered as I'm getting into playing....I never thought about how to best work in a conceal carry gun into the deal. Or did you open carry?


Let's see.....if the bar is a real dive....my Glock G30 would work out okay. If it's an upscale crappy joint, I may pack along a nice Colt......
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#15
Do what I did when working in the bad parts of town. Open carry a big ass Colt .45 revolver (one of the 7 1/2 inch barrel ones). Never had a problem
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#17
If you're in the states, add a Carvin Vintage 16 or a Nomad to the list.
The Nomad actually has 50W and can get really loud (if you need it to), but has an absolutely gorgeous clean channel and a reasonably nice gain channel.

The Vintage 16 is actually switchable from 16 to 5 W and some consider it one of the best small amps ever built. It's just that you don't find them in a Guitar Denter.
#18
Quote by classicrocker01
Do what I did when working in the bad parts of town. Open carry a big ass Colt .45 revolver (one of the 7 1/2 inch barrel ones). Never had a problem


ParaOrdnance 12-45. Old original non-race-gun style .45 ACP. Small, short barrel, 12-round staggered magazine with #13 in the chamber, concealed. That, and lots and LOTS of practice.
#19
I had a subcompact Glock in .45 ACP at one point. I love both .45 rounds, there's just something about them. That gun was so loud it hurt. Louder than my Mosins even.


The Carvin Vintage 16 is a nice little amp, I had one for a while. Very, very sweet sounding amp. Just not sure I'd recommend it for quiet playing. I had to get up on the volume a bit before it would really shine. Dimed it was incredible, quiet it was just okay. Now if you can turn it up
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#20
Quote by Robbgnarly
The Traynor YCV50B is a nice amp, very Marshally sounding

I don't have much experience with the Traynor line, but I would deff give them a look if I was in your shoes


yeah that's what i was thinking. the 20 is maybe more voxy (ish) but should still work.

I've heard some complaints recently about their reliability (and even just maintenance like changing valves, from what i hear, is a pain) which is why i haven't been suggestign them as much

a kustom coupé, if he can still find one, might also be worth a look...
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#21
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Jellotree.

Timely post. I'm interested in playing the same types of music and will soon be kicking the tires on some different amps.


How about some updates to the thread as you give some of the suggestions a try.

Man, that Peavey Classic 30 keeps coming up again and again one I need to look at, too.


I'm hoping to get out in the next couple weeks to try some out. I found a shop that carries the Peavey, so I'll have a try at it. I've read good and bad on them, but that's the way of the Internet I guess. LOL. Found some comparisons of Traynors vs the Peavey and various Fenders. The Traynor Guitarmate gets some pretty good reviews. One thing I hate though, is reviews that say "This amp is awesome....... After I upgraded the tube and the speaker(s)"..... Seen a lot of those.
#23
Oh, I should mention the 15W Traynor is the YGL1. I guess they don't call it the Guitarmate anymore.
#24
Quote by DubfromGA
Jellotree.

Timely post. I'm interested in playing the same types of music and will soon be kicking the tires on some different amps.


How about some updates to the thread as you give some of the suggestions a try.

Man, that Peavey Classic 30 keeps coming up again and again one I need to look at, too.


That's a funny story.

Of all the things I've considered as I'm getting into playing....I never thought about how to best work in a conceal carry gun into the deal. Or did you open carry?


Let's see.....if the bar is a real dive....my Glock G30 would work out okay. If it's an upscale crappy joint, I may pack along a nice Colt......


sorry i ****ed up the quoting a bit, if anything is a problem with anybody i will fix it.


its concealed down here, i never had to pull it out as such, but twice i made it 'obviously visable' lol.

after a few gigs there i decided it wasn't even worth it. had to worry about the vehicles as well. they were properly insured, but i don't want issues.
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#25
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-1 for the blues Jr. They are OK. But only have one channel


do you realize how many amazing amps are one channel? i am not going to list. but i prefer two or three myself.

and there are hundreds of OD pedals run the amp clean run an OD for boost/etc.

i would still go classic 30 over the blues jr. personaly preference.
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#26
Brief update. I had a bit of time today to try out a couple amps. The store had the same SG Standard I have so I used that to sample with.

First was a Fender Blues Jr. III. Not a bad little amp. Didn't stand out in any way but it did have nice cleans.

After explaining what I was after the guy showed me a Traynor Dark horse with its matching 1x12 cab. The lack of EQ was concerning at first, but it's a great little machine. What I did like was the option to drop it to 2W power. Great option for home practice. You can crank it to overdrive the tube without getting loud.

The USA, Pure and Brit modes all sounded great to my ears. I was asking about pedals, and as an example I brought up Sabbath. He brought out a Ranger boost pedal and (I think) had it on the pure setting. He got it dialed in pretty darn close. I'm still going to shop around, but the Dark horse is definitely a contender.