#2
Nothing. I don't hear "everywhere" that they're great. You need to stop hanging out with 14 year old slash wannabe's brah.

In seriousness though they're fine guitars and it isn't a general consensus "everywhere" that they're great. You just hang around too many Les Paul fanboys clearly.
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#3
It could have something to do with people liking Gibson and their legacy - assuming people talking about Les Pauls are referring to that specific company. But so many other companies have made their own take on the design. I guess some people just like the look, the general feel that kind of design gives, the humbuckeriness etc. Nothing wrong with that - it is a classic. But I agree that it's annoying when some just go on about one specific thing and don't try anything else
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#4
Remember that girl from high school that was an absolute knockout, but you struggled to hold a good conversation, thats what a les paul is to me. Looks amazing but not the most articulate guitar in the class.
#5
Part of it has to do with how iconic its sound is. For a lot of people, the sounds they grew up loving and the ones they try to base themselves off of were powered by a Les Paul into a Marshall. That's what was used for the sound in their head, it makes sense to make that the tool in the hands.

A lot of it also has to do with the fact that, when you find a good one, they're genuinely good guitars. The neck of a good Les Paul is great, and the sound, again, is so classic and we're so acclimated to that as the "good" rock sound, that you really can't go wrong with it tonally unless you really want the spank of a strat or the snap of a tele, specifically.
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#6
One word: Preference.

Play one and make up your own mind about how good they are.
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#7
Its one of the five all time classic electric guitar shapes (Strat, Tele, SG, Les Paul & Casino).

They are great instruments but, depending on what sort of sound youre going for, might not be what you need
#8
LP's are great all-round guitars and they have a sound that is near impossible to replicate on most other guitars. And as said it is prefrence
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#9
For me, tone. A Les Paul going through a cranked tube has this sound man, it's crazy. Go look up "Mississippi Queen" and you'll know what I mean. Yeah, "Mississippi Queen" that song has everything. :p
#10
I honestly don't know, I used to hate the feel of it, then as I grew more in my playing I was drawn to it more. Bought an EC1000T and now I have 3 Les Paul shaped guitars and have sold off, 2 Schecter Hellraisers, an Ibanez 7 string, an Ibanez Xiphos, an LTD Alexi-600, an Epi Explorer and V. I guess what I'm saying is I've tried almost every other shape, and the LP feels right to me. Maybe that's how everyone else who likes them feels.
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#11
I used to have an LP, but sold it because I couldn't stand the way it felt. I'm looking at getting another LP style guitar just because I miss the chunky-ass rhythm tones that I get through my Mark V that I haven't been able to replicate. If it wasn't for that, I'd have 0 love for them, because I certainly didn't care for the lead sound I got.
#12
nothing.

the maple tops jack up the tone in the high mids, they never intonate properly, the headstock is a horrible design.

but they sound alright with the right pups.
#13
There were two successful solid electric guitar designs in the early days that have stood the test of time. The Fender Telecaster, simple and modular but thoroughly tested before full production. The Gibson Les Paul, a luthier designed and tested guitar intended to top the young Fender upstart.
The Les Paul featured the traditional neck and headstock glued into a mahogany body, but the mahogany was capped with a carved maple top. The early lesters had thick top edge binding and gold paint to hide the construction so that others couldn't easily copy it.

After some slight evolution both types settled down to become 'the sound' of electric guitars and about 15 years after they first emerged players found they liked driving the amplifiers hard into distortion. The Les Paul excelled at this because the PUs could go from clean and clear to thunder and overdrive with the simple twist of the volume knob.
More to the point a LP has a tone (particularly further up the fingerboard) where it retains depth and authority when other guitars go thin and weedy. It is very resistant to feedback and can go from Jazz to country, rock to pop without any difficulty.
Someone once likened the tele/LP thing to a mini/Rolls Royce. Anyone can get a smooth ride in a rolls but driven well it is an exceptional car. A mini in the hands of a novice is a rough ride but in the hands of Paddy Hopkirk it is a thing of beauty.
So Fender made an electric guitar having made nothing but Hawaiian guitars and amplifiers before, Gibson were leading guitar manufacturers who came up with the Les Paul.

So go try one out and tell us what is so great about the LP for you.
#14
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one of the five all time classic electric guitar shapes (Strat, Tele, SG, Les Paul & Casino).


I'm glad you included Casino in there.
#15
They look nice, I'll give them that.

But, to me, they are too heavy, the necks are to thick, they are uncomfortable to play standing up and they don't sound terribly great stock. Plus I hate set necks.
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#16
The Les Paul is an iconic guitar. In the right hands it has a distinct tonal character. Is it for everyone? No. But then no guitar is.
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#17
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I'm glad you included Casino in there.


Why are you all calling it a Casino? Casino's came after the ES-330/ES-335's, and are not anywhere close to as popular or iconic.
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#18
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Why are you all calling it a Casino? Casino's came after the ES-330/ES-335's, and are not anywhere close to as popular or iconic.

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#19
Les Pauls are over priced but they are killer, the first time i played one i was in awe that i was holding one, i didn't feel that when i first played a Strat (nothing against strats) and that's the thing, there's just something about them but it's all subjective, so our opinions don't really matter, you have to decide what you think is good and bad, i personally think that they're great, you may not, no bigsby
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#20
They're pretty. A good one can sound pretty good, but unless you are looking at used MIJ stuff, a good one is pretty pricey. A lot of it, as mentioned, is precedence. I will say that nothing sounds like a Paul, if you want that tone, you need to get that guitar, but of course there are many different versions and they all have their distinct tweaks on the sound. Pretty much, YMMV.

I will say I hate the way they feel though. I have never had a harder time playing than on a Les Paul. Stupid single cuts.
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#22
The actual original heavy bulky ass Gibson Les Pauls have a unique flavor in tone but otherwise there is nothing special about them other than their heritage. What I like about Les Paul are the looks. The shape is just sexy no matter what brand it is and it is my favourite amongst ordinary guitar shapes. Only guitars I am going to own in future are Les Pauls and pointy things.

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#23
A nice Les Paul does have an aura about it, but finding a nice one is like finding your love in your life.
#24
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Remember that girl from high school that was an absolute knockout, but you struggled to hold a good conversation, thats what a les paul is to me. Looks amazing but not the most articulate guitar in the class.


I kind of feel the same way. I went to GC earlier today and tried one out, but it just wasn't my cup of tea.
#25
They're good quality guitars (at least, the genuine articles), with a HUGE amount of heritage behind them (a lot of famous rock stars used and use LP's to make platinum-selling albums).
Those two reasons make for an excellent reason to love the Les Paul (and consequently for there to be so many copies).

I personally find them unplayable due to the almost-comically oversized neck, though.
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#26
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I kind of feel the same way. I went to GC earlier today and tried one out, but it just wasn't my cup of tea.

I felt that way about dozens of different LPs before I finally found the one I fell in love with. Tried all sorts of Standards, Classics & Customs before eventually trying a Studio that blew them all away.

That's what I love about LPs, especially Gibsons. They all have their own unique identity.
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#27
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As great as the Beatles were, they didn't have the best taste in guitars. Paul's violin bass was the most gaudy instrument of the era. Besides, you've missed the whole point of my comment. The argument was originally that the Casino was the most iconic shape, and I pointed out that the shape is the ES-330, as it was the original, regardless of how popular the Casino became. Gibson came out with the ES series in the late 50's, and it wasn't until the early 60's that Epiphone made a cheaper version.

I would still argue that the ES-330 and 335 are way more popular than the Casino, but that is not my point.
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#28
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Its one of the five all time classic electric guitar shapes (Strat, Tele, SG, Les Paul & PRS).

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#29
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Its one of the one all time classic electric guitar shapes (Strat).


Fixed again.
#30
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As great as the Beatles were, they didn't have the best taste in guitars. Paul's violin bass was the most gaudy instrument of the era. Besides, you've missed the whole point of my comment. The argument was originally that the Casino was the most iconic shape, and I pointed out that the shape is the ES-330, as it was the original, regardless of how popular the Casino became. Gibson came out with the ES series in the late 50's, and it wasn't until the early 60's that Epiphone made a cheaper version.

I would still argue that the ES-330 and 335 are way more popular than the Casino, but that is not my point.



eh... epiphone of the 60s was a direct competitor of Gibson. Totally different company than it is today. Epi's quality with Gibson in that era was pretty much equal with each other.

I'd say the Casino is more popular. Casino + The Beatles was the sole reason the Gibson ES-330 was discontinued in the 70s. Nowhere close to being as "popular"

335? well thats a whole different beast...
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#31
I haven't seen it but I didn't like Les Miserablè so I probably won't like Les Paul.
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#32
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As great as the Beatles were, they didn't have the best taste in guitars. Paul's violin bass was the most gaudy instrument of the era. Besides, you've missed the whole point of my comment. The argument was originally that the Casino was the most iconic shape, and I pointed out that the shape is the ES-330, as it was the original, regardless of how popular the Casino became. Gibson came out with the ES series in the late 50's, and it wasn't until the early 60's that Epiphone made a cheaper version.

I would still argue that the ES-330 and 335 are way more popular than the Casino, but that is not my point.

The Beatles are a more popular band than pretty much all notable ES330 players combined, which is why the Casino as a more iconic guitar.

It speaks for itself why Gibson stopped making 330's. It couldn't compete in terms of popularity.
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#33
I reckon that if you combined all the famous ES330 players and asked everyone In the world if they'd have heard of at least one and done the same with the Beatles, it'd be prrreeeeettttyyyyy close.
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#34
I still believe that the Casino is a more popular guitar. Gibson discontinued the 330 for a reason.
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#36
I think Gibson's burstbuckers are good pickups that have a really distinct sound that many people prefer. I like to play a lot of 80's rock and it's easy to hit many band's tones from that era with a LP. The single cut body style is also iconic and to many the name is as well. I have a few Gibson LPs and while their quality may not be the highest, they are fairly good guitars. I just like my ESP more.
#38
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eh... epiphone of the 60s was a direct competitor of Gibson. Totally different company than it is today. Epi's quality with Gibson in that era was pretty much equal with each other.

I'd say the Casino is more popular. Casino + The Beatles was the sole reason the Gibson ES-330 was discontinued in the 70s. Nowhere close to being as "popular"

335? well thats a whole different beast...



Epiphone was owned by Gibson in the 60's and Epis were built at Gibson USA facilities by Gibson workers and just marked as Epis.
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#39
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yeah. remember that one about the fans? or the one with the pedals attached to the amp with patch cables? stiff competition (plus I'm not sure this one is a troll thread, it's a legitimate question).

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