#1
While I own a '60s Classic Player Strat, it doesn't have the balls to play a lot of more modern music. I basically want to be able to achieve the range of tones in "Heart-Shaped Box". I have an AL-2000 so I don't really need a humbucker guitar. The Strat is used and needs a lot of love. Is there a single coil guitar I could buy or should I mod the Strat?
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#2
You can get a nice set of pups for the strat from Seymour Duncan or DiMarzio for a fraction of the cost of a new guitar. I'd go for that if you are handy with a soldering iron.
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#6
the TS is in the US so he'd be fine. no help to you though.

fwiw the pedal pretty much sucks ass but that's just my opinion.

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#7
Quote by lespaul#1
While I own a '60s Classic Player Strat, it doesn't have the balls to play a lot of more modern music. I basically want to be able to achieve the range of tones in "Heart-Shaped Box". I have an AL-2000 so I don't really need a humbucker guitar. The Strat is used and needs a lot of love. Is there a single coil guitar I could buy or should I mod the Strat?


There are single coil size humbuckers that will fit. Put something like a DiMarzio Fast Track II in the bridge and your opinion of the guitar will change. Check out the Kinman Noiseless pickups. Visit the Wampler Pedals site and see what the options are...
#8
put a JB in a new pickguard or put a JB Jr in the bridge (if you just want to change the p/u)

The DS-1 is also a good choice here as is the DOD Grunge.
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#9
Quote by lespaul#1
While I own a '60s Classic Player Strat, it doesn't have the balls to play a lot of more modern music. I basically want to be able to achieve the range of tones in "Heart-Shaped Box". I have an AL-2000 so I don't really need a humbucker guitar. The Strat is used and needs a lot of love. Is there a single coil guitar I could buy or should I mod the Strat?


1)There are single coil sized humbuckers, and single coils that ARE hotter than humbuckers. You can find info on some of them at the Seymour Duncan or DiMarzio websites. Both manufacture formidable pickups.

2)You can get balls by tinkering with the EQs of your amp and pedals, and of course, if you want a heavier sound, PICK HARDER.
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#10
Well my friend is going to set up my Strat for me. But seriously these pickups get no sustain and are very meh. And I have a DS-1 already but good idea.
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#12
...and Lace, Tesla, Rio Grande, Bareknuckle and, well...doggone near anyone who makes singlecoils will have a variety of offerings to choose from that may deliver more of what you seek.
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#13
If you want all of the tones in "Heart-Shaped Box," a Boss DS-1 will do the job. As for pickups, Seymour Duncan, DiMarzzio, and Lace among others make replacement pickups that'll cover all bases.
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#14
My friend set up my Strat and it plays well now. However the pickups have little to no output and are ****ed up. They don't even prevent hum when in the second and fourth position. He recommended I change them. While I have a Les Paul for heavy stuff, I want pickups that can do grunge but have good cleans as well. I'm not sure what to get in single coil versus humbuckers. What would you all recommend for good pickups on a budget?
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#16
Even for grungy/modern alternative rock stuff?
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#17
#5423 is a hotter pickup for neck or bridge, but it is not be the best out there. You can get better by paying more, for sure.

What is your actual budget.
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#18
If i wait probably around $100 or so. Is that enough?
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#19
Total or per pickup?
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#22
You might be better off dropping an inexpensive singlecoil-sized humbucker in the bridge, like these:

http://www.carvinguitars.com/products/TBH60

www.ebay.com/itm/like/360885129464?lpid=82

And then using the Golden Age pickups in the middle and neck (with the neck one being #5423, mentioned above).
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#23
Well $100 for all? Is that a bad budget?
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#24
Well, it's not terrible, but it is $40-110 short for buying 3 pickups of the kind that most people in this thread are suggesting. Honestly, though, I'd say that $150 is the bare minimum for 3 pickups that would make an obvious difference. And why do this if the change isn't immediately noticeable.
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#25
Ok so $150 would be ok? And I like the idea of the 61 and the 58 together but how is the output on them?
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#26
I don't know those DiMarzios well enough to answer.
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#27
I'm kind of in a split between high output and good cleans.
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#28
Nothing wrong with getting a high-output pickup for the bridge and one better suited for cleans in the neck and/or middle. Many guitars do this.
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#29
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Ok so $150 would be ok? And I like the idea of the 61 and the 58 together but how is the output on them?


Like Danny said, nothing wrong with a hot bridge and a mellow neck and middle. The DiMarzio page recommended a 61 bridge and a 58 mid/neck.

That said, I have virtually no experience with these pickups, as I rarely use single coils at all.

Be sure to get more suggestions here if you're looking into DiMarzio, though http://www.dimarzio.com/pickup-picker
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#30
The only reason I care about the bridge being that way is because I play a bit of surf guitar.
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#31
While most surf is played on singlecoils, some has been played on HBs and P90s.

Hmm...does your guitar have a swimming pool route? If so, you could put a HB-sized P90 in the bridge for extra-testicular heft.
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#32
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The only reason I care about the bridge being that way is because I play a bit of surf guitar.



The most important thing in surf is a good clean tone and a nice reverb. Singles can help, but ultimately it's your style that matters.

And that's coming from a guy who plays Strats and Jazzmasters near exclusively.
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#33
Quote by dannyalcatraz
While most surf is played on singlecoils, some has been played on HBs and P90s.

Hmm...does your guitar have a swimming pool route? If so, you could put a HB-sized P90 in the bridge for extra-testicular heft.


How would I know that? It's the '60s Classic Series Strat so I doubt it.


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The most important thing in surf is a good clean tone and a nice reverb. Singles can help, but ultimately it's your style that matters.

And that's coming from a guy who plays Strats and Jazzmasters near exclusively.


I'm just afraid of sacrificing cleans and twang for output. I don't play Surf as much as some things but I still value it and its tone.
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#34
maybe a tapped single coil? never tried them, so that may well be a stupid idea, but it might be worth considering.

but yeah generally the more of one you get the less of the other. so you have to decide which you need more, really (or else compromise with something inbetween).

or use a tubescreamer or similar as a boost. assuming you have a tube amp.
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#35
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How would I know that? It's the '60s Classic Series Strat so I doubt it.

You or me? We'd have to take the pickguard off and look.

Some of the more tech minded guys like JustRooster might know just from knowing what model your guitar is.
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