#1
Hey guys,

I'm looking to pick up a used ESP LTD EC-1000 Deluxe in Purple (always wanted a high-ish end EC in Purple) and I was after advice on drop tuning it.

My band plays originals in Drop G# and covers in Drop G/B, Drop A#and Drop B. I'm currently using a Baritone for the Drop G# stuff but was after advice on getting down to A# as these only have a 24.75" neck and what gauge strings to use (10-60 Zakk Wyldes?
). Dont want to be playing with spaghetti, although that might be the case.

I wanna buy it because its something I've always wanted and its discontinued but I'd like to be able to utilise it in my band, play shows etc.
#2
If you're set well, good for you, though it'd be reeeally impractical for that stuff.

I have a 25.5" scale tele and .12-.62 are a bit light for C and the low one gets very sloppy when I go to drop A#.

So, something bigger than .12-.62 if ya ask me.
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#4
72 may be overkill, but I'm using 64 for drop A on a 26,5" 7-string, so you may need something similar for A# with a shorter scale, possibly 66.
#5
You may have some problem with strings that big though.

I mean they'd do fine, maybe even tight if not dropped, but I've never seen a non baritone 6 string with a nut and a bridge fitted for strings that big, so that'd not be ideal either.
Also, I wouldn't wanna be the one to set that guitar to play nice with them strings.

I still think it'd be a bad idea to get that guitar to do that stuff.
I mean it's cool and all and I'd get the guitar if it was so important to me but I wouldn't use it to do something of that kind.
It's already hard to play in C with a 25.5" neck, I really doubt it'd be more comfortable to play drop A or A# on a 24.75".
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I'd look up the tensions for the different gauges and tunings, there are a few different sites you can use to do this, just google it. That's how I figured out what set to get for playing in C# on my SG
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#7
Tunings that low are just silly...

But something like 12's would work. But take it to someone that knows how to set up guitars properly. otherwise you could end up with a broken neck (guitar, not you)
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#8
Or you could always let the bassist do what their there for................. Just put bass strings on it if you want to tune it like one.
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I use 11s in standard, so i would think you would need strings so big that the dont fit in your tuners.
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Nile uses uses 24.75 scale Deans in Drop A and the lowest string is 70 if I remember correctly. That should give you some reference how big strings you need for that low tunings in short scales.

DR has 13-65 set, which would otherwise be optimal but the next thickest string is a stupid 56 which is MASSIVELY tighter than rest of the strings. Try D'Addario 13-62 first. It might be loose for Drop A but Drop A# it could work just fine. If the low string is too loose get a bigger string separately. Though tread carefully, too thick strings may start to sound boomy, unless thats exactly what you are after.


Tunings that low are just silly...


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#11
Firstly, Ltd 1000s are amazing! Since it's a shorter scale length you need bigger strings than if it were on a 25.5.

With that said for drop A I would recommend at least 70 on the bottom end. And to be honest if you want that low of a tuning you really should just tune up your baritone maybe? I would feel bad putting that big of strings on my deluxe. You will more than likely need to file the posts to fit the string and file your bridge to fit too.
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Firstly, Ltd 1000s are amazing! Since it's a shorter scale length you need bigger strings than if it were on a 25.5.

With that said for drop A I would recommend at least 70 on the bottom end. And to be honest if you want that low of a tuning you really should just tune up your baritone maybe? I would feel bad putting that big of strings on my deluxe. You will more than likely need to file the posts to fit the string and file your bridge to fit too.



Well, he did say that he wants another guitar for... errr... higher tunings and use it live while his baritone guitar stays in überlow Drop G. Switching tunings live on same guitar is not really efficient, not to mention the intonation issues.

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#13
"Higher" tunings, haha. Ya, I guess I wouldn't want to put that stress on an ec 1000, but I'm sure it's been done before.
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#14
Something between a 62 and a 66 would be good for a low A#. I definitely wouldn't recommend anything in the 70s.

Something around 12 is good for a high C. Maybe even 11, but I like being able to bend easily. Right now I'm using an 11 for a high D in a few of my guitars and I think it's too tight.


Also keep in mind that the EC-1000 you get will probably have an Earvana nut, which isn't really ideal to cut deeper. Of course if you want to do it right you'll get a new nut cut altogether, but just a heads up.
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