#1
Whats up guys i just wanted to ask you guys which guitar is superior for the $800 bucks price?

ESP LTD Deluxe H-1001FM

http://www.guitarcenter.com/ESP-LTD-Deluxe-H-1001FM-Electric-Guitar-584484-i1503610.gc

or

Schecter Research Hellraiser C-1

http://www.guitarcenter.com/item/default.aspx?itemno=1446249


Thanks and could you guys mind leaving detailed explanations why one would be better than the other. THANKS
Last edited by thrashhabbit666 at Apr 19, 2014,
#2
Better? Whichever one you like the sound and feel of more. They're both well made, they both play extremely well, so really it comes down to personal opinion and which guitar has the pickups you want.

Personally I'd go for the Schecter just because it's got coil tap and to me it looks a little better.

I would consider going for either a Schecter or LTD that does the Seymour Duncan JB/Jazz combo over EMGs though. I'm fairly certain both companies make both guitars with that configuration and they're more versatile than EMGs.
#3
Don't ever buy a guitar based on what someone told you online

Pick them both up and play them and it should be pretty obvious TO YOU which one YOU like
#4
If you're looking for resale value, definitely go for the LTD. Generally, it seems there are a lot of Schecters on the used market (that's not to say they are bad, but it'll be harder to sell).

They are very similar guitars, most of the difference is the Schecter has a little thicker neck.

Also +1 to cheesefries's point
#6
LTD.

But i havent played a schecter in 8 years so they might have stepped their game up since then...
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#7
^ +1 (haven't tried a ltd in some time too, it must be said. but yeah based on what i have tried, the ltd.)
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#8
Both guitars were probably built in the exact same Korean factory, and are of similar quality... it's whatever fits your hands the best . Personally I would go for the LTD, you can get those used for around $400-500 btw.
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#9
And here I was expecting a novelty guitar shaped like a witch.
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#10
Either will work, I prefer the Schecters but it's strictly personal preference.

Buy used and get one of each...
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#11
You really have to try them. The sound can be sorted out later pretty much with pickup choice - buy the one that feels best in your hands. Two seemingly identical guitars can feel completely different to play.
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#12
Esp hands down. Also from your previous threads you need a new amp.
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#13
Got a Schecter c-1 custom, wouldn't trade it for anything. Got an ESP... Thinking about selling it. There ya go, bro.
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Got a Schecter c-1 custom, wouldn't trade it for anything. Got an ESP... Thinking about selling it. There ya go, bro.


Please don't listen to this... I have an LTD EC-1000 CTM which I'll never sell and I've went through probably 5-10 guitars after buying it and not one been a keeper. Should you buy the LTD based on this? Of course not! Go try them, the one that feels the best is a keeper
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#15
Hmm...mercury topaz or ford tempo...hmm. If you're buying from guitar center, buy either. Play it for a few weeks, return it and buy the other, then return or keep.
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#16
The main pros of each:

The LTD H is special in that H models without a Floyd Rose have a DEEP back belly contour on the back, a really severe cutaway that I haven't seen on any other guitar. I have yet to play a guitar that feels better to play than my H-301, and I think that cutaway plays a significant role in that.

The main feature on the Hellraiser that sets it apart is the coil tapped EMGs. They're pretty amazing, in that they are some of the very very very small amount of humbuckers that actually split into a true single coil. No coil tap/split half ass shenanigans here.


That in mind, I would have to say that the Hellraiser is objectively the better guitar.

But subjectivity is a huge part of the guitar world, and if you're like me, the feel of the H model makes this comparison no competition at all.

Unfortunately, you really do have to play them.

Hope this helps your thought process.


EDIT: Here's a picture of the back cutaway on the H, so you can get an idea of what I'm talking about. Note how far down it goes (past the middle of the guitar), and compare that to any other guitar you have or see a picture of.

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Got a Schecter c-1 custom, wouldn't trade it for anything. Got an ESP... Thinking about selling it. There ya go, bro.


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Please don't listen to this... I have an LTD EC-1000 CTM which I'll never sell and I've went through probably 5-10 guitars after buying it and not one been a keeper. Should you buy the LTD based on this? Of course not! Go try them, the one that feels the best is a keeper



Don't listen to either one of these people.
They are both biased (Especially jonthorsigmunds. Sorry dude, but putting down someone else's opinion because you disagree with it is incredibly juvenile).

Oh, and I went through well over 30 Strats before I found one I liked.
It's a 1996 MIM and I paid $350 for it, case included.

What you need to do is go and play BOTH OF them, and then make your decision.
Play it unplugged.
Check for construction quality.
And check for play-ability.
How does the neck feel? (This is pretty much the #1 thing I pay attention to when checking out a new guitar).
How is the weigh distribution?
Does it have good sustain? Or none?

If all of the above are equal or performs to your satisfaction, how they each sound plugged in is not a major concern.
String choice (and gauge), tone caps, pickups, and a proper setup will help you fine tune things to your liking.
This will require some research on your part to determine what would suit your style best.
Last edited by CodeMonk at Apr 20, 2014,
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Don't listen to either one of these people.
They are both biased (Especially jonthorsigmunds. Sorry dude, but putting down someone else's opinion because you disagree with it is incredibly juvenile).

Oh, and I went through well over 30 Strats before I found one I liked.
It's a 1996 MIM and I paid $350 for it, case included.

What you need to do is go and play BOTH OF them, and then make your decision.
Play it unplugged.
Check for construction quality.
And check for play-ability.
How does the neck feel? (This is pretty much the #1 thing I pay attention to when checking out a new guitar).
How is the weigh distribution?
Does it have good sustain? Or none?

If all of the above are equal or performs to your satisfaction, how they each sound plugged in is not a major concern.
String choice (and gauge), tone caps, pickups, and a proper setup will help you fine tune things to your liking.
This will require some research on your part to determine what would suit your style best.


Read my WHOLE comment dude, and you might have realized I was not being biased at all and told him to try them both.

Originally Posted by jonthorsigmunds
Please don't listen to this... I have an LTD EC-1000 CTM which I'll never sell and I've went through probably 5-10 guitars after buying it and not one been a keeper. Should you buy the LTD based on this? Of course not! Go try them, the one that feels the best is a keeper
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+1 Don't listen to either one of these people.
They are both biased (Especially jonthorsigmunds. Sorry dude, but putting down someone else's opinion because you disagree with it is incredibly juvenile).


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Oh, and I went through well over 30 Strats before I found one I liked.
It's a 1996 MIM and I paid $350 for it, case included.



i went through (purchase/flip) 12 strats until i found the right one $175. and am happy, 1995 white on white. i am looking for a second one now, plan on buying less and playing them more).

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as far as the schecter vs LTD is save up and going for an ESP. they are hugely different.

have you considered ibanez or jackson? i would recommend trying those at well.

to just state the last of my formers. two MIJ that were probably in the early 2000's they were nice, but it just didn't fit me. a DKMG and a SLS(can't remember atm) i have owned three LTD's one EC400 EC401 and EC1000. the 401 was totally shitty, that is when they changed factories. the EC1000 wasn' bad, but i started buying other superstrats.

i own three ibanez prestige guitars a 3550MZ, 2570EVSL, and a 1570. they the best you will find for your money IMO. plan on a pickup swap unless you go for a 3XXX. they were better than all of the other guitars. for the money used. if you like thicker necks, they may not be first pick.

i OWNED all of these played all of them.


best the jacksons would come in right after the Prestige Ibbys.
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#21
I guess that cutaway comes in handy when you get that beer belly, it kinda tucks it in nicely

Please don't mistake LTD with ESP, I've played quite a few guitars from both and the difference is huge in favor of you know who
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I guess that cutaway comes in handy when you get that beer belly, it kinda tucks it in nicely

Please don't mistake LTD with ESP,
I've played quite a few guitars from both and the difference is huge in favor of you know who


thank you. somebody else has it right. an ESP LTD is the same thing as a Gibson Epiphone, or a Fender Squier.

ESP's are very nice instruments. LTD's aren't bad, but far from ESP's.
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