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#1
I'm so confused.
What is the difference between them?
CFX,DFX and the rest.
#2
Just different iterations of the same depressingly mediocre amp.
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#3
C is for cat, D is for dog. It's the type of shit they're trying to sell you for your sandwich.
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#4
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#5
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C is for cat, D is for dog. It's the type of shit they're trying to sell you for your sandwich.

This.

But really, I think the C stands for "carbon fibre", DFX stands for "digital FX" and FX stands for "effects". CFX are the newest and DFX the oldest MG series amps.

They are all cheap practice amps (and some of them are just oversized practice amps).
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#7
marshall's great when you're talking about good tube amps. when you're talking about cheap practice amps, not so much.
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#8
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No love for Marshall huh?

I have a Marshall JCM2000 DSL100 and it is a great amp, the MG/G series is not that good. The older Valvestate and AVT amps are better but still not that great.

If you give us a budget, type of music, location, current gear, gig or practice, new or used we can help you much better
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#9
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No love for Marshall huh?

Marshall is not the same as Marshall MG, same as Line 6 is not the same as Line 6 Spider or Fender is not the same as Frontman or Squier. Cheap gear is cheap, no matter what brand you are talking about. And when it comes to Marshall, you need to pay a bit extra for the name.
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#10
Their called the MG series because the designers were smoking magnesium.
#11
^ will that make an MG sound better?
Damn I gotta smoke some Mg and then play through my amp, it'd be awesome.

Anyway, yeah, I don't really like marshall in general because of some stupid ideas mr. Marshall introduced, like using jack leads as power cables, though the problem here is the MG series, not the brand.
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#12
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I have a Marshall JCM2000 DSL100 and it is a great amp, the MG/G series is not that good. The older Valvestate and AVT amps are better but still not that great.

If you give us a budget, type of music, location, current gear, gig or practice, new or used we can help you much better



Well I already have a thread on that but, $250 is what I have to spend.
I want AC/DC and Sabbath tones and I play a 2005 SG Standard.
#13
Save up a bit more and find yourself a used vypyr tube 60, ore save up another bit more and find yourself a used DSL401.
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#14
The dsl series is much better, but if you really don't want to save up any more, the mg hdfx aren't bad. You can find them very cheap used because of all the people online ruining their reputation.
#15
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The dsl series is much better, but if you really don't want to save up any more, the mg hdfx aren't bad. You can find them very cheap used because of all the people online ruining their reputation.


Or maybe because they really do suck?

Look, I've got one as well, but I'll not pretend it's anything but an overpriced monitor speaker.

TS, too many other good choices to even consider buying Marshall's Garbage.
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#16
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The dsl series is much better, but if you really don't want to save up any more, the mg hdfx aren't bad. You can find them very cheap used because of all the people online ruining their reputation.

The thing you haven't seemed to notice is, most people who bash mg's...owned one. You're trying to discredit thousands of opinions that carry at least equal weight to yours, with just your single opinion. Its fine if you like the amp, but don't complain about others who do not. Post some clips to convert them.


Ts, you're not too far off a Class 5 if you want a Marshall. They're actually pretty good amps and on a good day go for $250 used. I think they usually go for $3-350.
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#17
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The thing you haven't seemed to notice is, most people who bash mg's...owned one. You're trying to discredit thousands of opinions that carry at least equal weight to yours, with just your single opinion. Its fine if you like the amp, but don't complain about others who do not. Post some clips to convert them.


Ts, you're not too far off a Class 5 if you want a Marshall. They're actually pretty good amps and on a good day go for $250 used. I think they usually go for $3-350.

Also, a Class 5 will fit AC/DC and Sabbath and other more vintage sounds a lot better than an MG. But I would suggest getting one with the low power mode because it needs to be cranked to get all the distortion out of it. And 5 watts cranked will get a bit too loud for bedroom practice. The low power mode will work perfectly for bedroom playing.
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Yamaha FG720S-12
Yamaha P115
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#18
The Class 5 is great for ACDC and Sabbath. I own the head. The only thing is it has a very strong midrange.
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#19
Quote by 757ian123
The dsl series is much better, but if you really don't want to save up any more, the mg hdfx aren't bad. You can find them very cheap used because of all the people online ruining their reputation.
Judging from my experience only, the MG's don't suck that much when paired with good speakers.
I mean they still don't sound good for the money, but if you already have a cab I think an MG100HDFX would do fine if you wanted to use the crunch mostly.

Though unless you found one for dirt cheap, save up a bit more and get a real amp.
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#20
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The dsl series is much better, but if you really don't want to save up any more, the mg hdfx aren't bad. You can find them very cheap used because of all the people online ruining their reputation.


haha what? we don't have that much power. look how popular jet cities are online. Look how well they sold in the "real world" and the prices they have to sell them for nowadays. That's just one example. Guitarists who are clued in to online forums are very much in the minority, I strongly suspect.

in fact in the used market i'd say stuff which goes for too cheap because it's *not* one of the well-known brandnames (rather than because of its quality) vastly outnumbers stuff like the MG (which is a brandname) going for cheap used.
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#21
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(...) the mg hdfx aren't bad.

I agree, they aren't bad. They're utterly horrible.

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You can find them very cheap used because of all the people online ruining their reputation.

The MGs do a great job of ruining their own reputation by themselves, it just takes a somewhat experienced ear.

Of course, if you keep eating dog food and never taste chocolate, you'll always feel satisfied eating dog food.
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#22
^ the crunch channel doesn't even sound that bad when the amp is ran through a good set of speakers.

Though yeah, the amp'd be worth the money it costs if all of the channels were as good as the crunch and the combo came with a T75 or similar.
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#23
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^ the crunch channel doesn't even sound that bad when the amp is ran through a good set of speakers.

Though yeah, the amp'd be worth the money it costs if all of the channels were as good as the crunch and the combo came with a T75 or similar.

That's the whole point; why consider an MG at all if you can get a better amp in the same price range?
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#24
Well you can get a big, cool half stack with "marshall" written on it for relatively cheap.

The marshall logo is the main reason actually.
I could tell you a long story about why I found myself with one, but the short version is that at 13 I was in a band and we put together some money to buy a guitar amp for a "big gig".
We went to the music store and I didn't impose myself hard enough not to let the guitarist choose the amp himself, even if I though it was too little and it didn't sound particularly good.

But then again, he was the guitarist, and even if he once asked me "well if you don't like marshall tell me, what other company makes amps this good?", I wasn't really an expert.
Then I got myself a guitar and since I paid for it too I used a bit.

I sold it 6 months ago and I had to open it up to fix stuff (opening it didn't even help actually) and I tried my tube amp with its speaker (10", I had the 30w one) ABing it with my other combo's spaker, an 8" "bad dog" in a randall RG25something I got for €55 a couple years ago.

Damn the speaker sounded sooooooo ****in bad...
So since the crunch channel didn't sound as bad as the other channels even thorugh that speaker I figured it would haven't sounded bad at all through a good speaker.

Ah well, I ended up telling you the full story

Though anyway, to summarize, all of the reasons I can think of why you should consider getting a marshall mg aren't about the sound at all.
Name's Luca.

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#25
Whoever said I should post a video, I did. It was an mg vs a jcm 2000 and they sounded very similar but everyone just denied it and said you can't judge sound in a YouTube video. The one thing I will agree with is the distortion sounds bad at high volumes, but that might be the spakers' fault.

I've tried very hard to hate my MG after playing/owning tube amps and I just can't. Sure the tube amps sound better, but people exaggerate the difference way too much. I look at sound from an unbiased perspective, I don't force myself to think something's better because it “should" be or it costs more.
#26
Quote by 757ian123
Whoever said I should post a video, I did. It was an mg vs a jcm 2000 and they sounded very similar but everyone just denied it and said you can't judge sound in a YouTube video. The one thing I will agree with is the distortion sounds bad at high volumes, but that might be the spakers' fault.

I've tried very hard to hate my MG after playing/owning tube amps and I just can't. Sure the tube amps sound better, but people exaggerate the difference way too much. I look at sound from an unbiased perspective, I don't force myself to think something's better because it “should" be or it costs more.


Or maybe, just maybe, they actually didn't and it's you who are biased?
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#27
No love for Marshall? I was one of the first to call the MG shit in this thread. You can hardly call me a Marshall hater, look at my sig. It's not Marshall that is hated, it's their cheap SS stuff that is hated. It's complete garbage with an inflated pricetag because of the logo on the front.
It isn't people on the net ruining Marshall's reputation, they are doing that all by themselves. They push their SS crap onto poor unsuspecting kids who don't know any better and hand over their money thinking they are getting a good amp because, well, "it says Marshall on the front, it must be good." Then they discover that it isn't and feel conned. THAT is what is destroying their reputation, not us.
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#29
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marshall sucks.

except the fridge, that has great tone.


Pics or it's an MG
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#30
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Or maybe, just maybe, they actually didn't and it's you who are biased?


No, people agreed they sounded almost the same. But they said it was YouTube's fault
#31
You can do anything with a recording. The proof of the pudding is to plug into the amp yourself and actually play through it. Then the differences are night and day. MG's are lifeless pieces of crap.
This, coming from a man who is often accused of being a Marshall fanboi.
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#32
Was the thing recorded with a single SM*fiftyseven* (**** my phone) pointed towards the center of the dustcap of the speaker in an MG*four by twelve* cab?
'cause that way, odds are that my amp would sound like an mg's clean channel.
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#33
If you give me a little time to dial it in I can make even a JTM45 sound like shit if I wanted to.
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#34
Quote by 757ian123
No, people agreed they sounded almost the same. But they said it was YouTube's fault

I have played several versions of the MG, I own a JCM2000 DSL100. The MG does not sound like a JCM at all. The only thing it has in common is the Marshall name. I'm cool with people liking what ever they want in an amp, but don't say stupid things like that.
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#35
I could build a better Marshall in my sleep than an MG. I swear, one day I'm gonna wake up to find a 1974X that I've built while sleepwalking.
Seriously dude, give it up. You're talking to people who know of which they speak. MG's are shit, period.
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#36
Quote by Robbgnarly
I have played several versions of the MG, I own a JCM2000 DSL100. The MG dot sound like a JCM at all. The only thing it has in common is the Marshall name. I'm cool with people liking what ever they want in an amp, but don't say stupid things like that.


Post a video then and prove it. If I owned both I'd love to do a blind test and see how many people fail.
#37
Do you not understand that there's more to the equation than how it sounds on a recording?
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Marshall 1960A
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#38
Quote by 757ian123
Post a video then and prove it. If I owned both I'd love to do a blind test and see how many people fail.

Sorry, I don't own a MG and I really never plan on buying one, ever

Like what you want, but trust me if the MG sounded the same as the JCM2000, they would have never sold the JCM's because of the price differences.
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#39
honestly i don't think i would buy a single thing marshall that is in production.

MG;s are shit. if i had my recording shit set up (have an interface, monitors a sm57, and now a computer, i am just not the best with computers.

i could give a few splawn vs MG clips... i have one lying somewhere that a former student and he broke his wrist and had a few pins put in. he coudn't play and his mom said thanks and asked if i needed anything, i said no and good luck. then she leads me to the back of their SUV and gave me the marshall free. his sister got his strat.

the DSL's are alright i prefer the 50, but would probably get a 100 and pull a pair of tubes out run it at half volume (MAKE SURE to lower your impedance on your head). if it was a 16, set it at 8).

never liked a marshall hybrid.

the jcm800 900 SL-X are both nice and prevalent in music.
i like plexis,

i built a JTM45 and 1974x which are my favorite. when i get time i will do a JCM some day.

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#40
I don't mind the Class 5 but apart from that the only new Marshall I'd be interested in would be the reissues of the old amps - and even then, I'd just build one myself.
When I bought the RM100 I could have had any new Marshall I wanted but there was nothing on offer that I thought was worth the money and certainly nothing of the same quality as the Randall.
With my Mashall module I get a damn fine Marshall tone, far more Marshally than any of the new Marshalls. It's quite bizarre really, these days if you want a good Marshall tone, you're better off with something made by somebody else.
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