Poll: What is your opinion on sampling?
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I love it because it's awesome and I'm cool :cool:
30 67%
I'm lame and think it's a form of stealing
3 7%
Get out of here with your fake instrument computer music.
12 27%
Voters: 45.
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#1
What's the pit's views on sampling. Is it a legitimate way of making music? Is it just ripping off a song that someone else already wrote?

Why do you like/dislike when an artist samples to make music?
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#3
It's not really much different from covering a song. If you do it well, and add your own touch to it, good job. If you just rely on the song you're sampling to be good enough and don't add much to it (way too common with bad rappers), then you're just lazy.

Personally, I never sample anything other than sound effects and stuff
#4
If the artist samples just to compliment their song, that's fine. But if the sample is the entire focus of the song (what "makes" the song) then it's bullshit. For example, "Ice Ice Baby." The only thing memorable about the song is Queen's baseline. But in Eminem's Berzerk, the Billy Squire sample just compliments the song (even though that song is quite shit).

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#7
sampling when done right is beautiful, otherwise it kind of annoys me
It's over simplified, So what!

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#8
It can be good and bad like anything. I actually like how that unkown RHCP song is sampled in Butterfly by Crazy Town.
#9
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It can be good and bad like anything. I actually like how that unkown RHCP song is sampled in Butterfly by Crazy Town.

Pretty Little Ditty is the song.

OT: I think if an artist can use the sample to create something that is unique and original then its all good with me but like AeroRocker said, if the artist uses the sample as the base for the whole song, then that shit is whack.
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#10
All music is sampling
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#12
I love sampling. It's cool to hear one thing and then have it turned into something completely different. I usually call it musical collage when defending it even though that sounds dumb & stupid.
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#14
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I love sampling. It's cool to hear one thing and then have it turned into something completely different. I usually call it musical collage when defending it even though that sounds dumb & stupid.


yess, Tchaikovsky would've wanted this.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5VtsTW_t9xk

that sounded snarky but I was being serious, samples ftw
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#15
i get disappointed in the artist when i find out some hook or melody turns out to be a sample, but it doesn't ruin the song for me. i'm okay with samples for ornamentation.
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#16
Samples are what they are and can be good or bad depending on the context etc. like anything else.
#18
jesus wept what decade are we in?

the sampling debate has been over forever fuk off
#19
I think of it like this:

If someone painted a picture, everyone saw it, it made millions, gets featured in galleries, something like the Mona Lisa of a Van Gogh. The someone said, 'I'm gonna take a defining feature of that picture (for instance, mona lisa's face), that someone spent hours, or days, or (possibly) years perfecting, then I'm gonna slapdash it on my own, much less significant portrait or art piece and then have the audacity to charge money for people to see it, even if it is subjectively or objectively worse than whatever I took the image from'.

The same can be applied to video games. If I made an FPS game, everyone played it, it made millions, yadda yadda, like CoD or something.. lets say someone took 30 seconds of that memorable cutscene where you have to pull a knife out of your own chest. They then slapdash that piece of footage in their game in some way as to make it 'presentable' and then charge people lots of money to see it, even if it has no context on what the game is about or if it does/doesn't work artistically speaking (imagine if someone put it in DDR for instance).

What I'm getting at is that its a lazy way of saying 'I'm not creative enough to think for my own art, lets borrow someone else's because even if the majority wont agree with me that it sounds/looks/plays nicely and I'm justified in doing so, there'll always be some group of people who'll call me a genius and spur me and other people on to do it even more, thus devaluing all forms of art with a hint of 'cannot be arsed''.

And on that last sentence, I think if you're going to do any kind of art, its going to be the best ****ing thing you've ever made because without limits that need pushing, nothing changes or progresses, everything gets duller and duller and more meaningless and repetitive and then you end up with the death of culture (in the extreme end of this cynical exposition).

I don't have a problem if its something insignificant like a snare hit, a bass stab or even a vocal note. In context to my comparisons, that's like taking a small section of the greeny colour from the background of the Mona Lisa or say, the animation movements/skeleton of the knife in chest scene: Generally insignificant but indistinctive enough to not encroach on the original. I'm okay with that.
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#20
Sampling goes way way way back

This is sampling:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAuqxEMRapg


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#21
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the sampling debate has been over forever fuk off

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#22
I sometimes feel like it's a bit "unfair", for lack of a better word, for the listener to not know which bits are sampled and how much of the song is, or not, original. I feel the same way with covers by the way (although covers are more "extreme" than sampling in this aspect, for me).

But I'm not worried about it, really. I do like to know if a song has samples or is a cover, and if so, I prefer knowing the original, but I know that's not important for a lot of people and that's perfectly fine.
#23
by the way guys whether things are original or not doesn't actually ****ing matter at all

nor does how hard things are to play on wood and strings but you haven't figured that out either
#24
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by the way guys whether things are original or not doesn't actually ****ing matter at all

nor does how hard things are to play on wood and strings but you haven't figured that out either

Well, the first matters to me. Like, if someone plays a cover of a song that sounds exactly the same as the original, I don't think it has much merit as a song.

I agree with the second.
#26
Covers are pretty much paying homage to an artist, where as sampling is pretty much straight theft. If I "sampled" willt's "hard work" he'd be ****ing pissed if he wasn't getting paid.
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#27
sometimes a good use of a sample ends up being better than the original song anyway.
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#28
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Covers are pretty much paying homage to an artist, where as sampling is pretty much straight theft. If I "sampled" willt's "hard work" he'd be ****ing pissed if he wasn't getting paid.

yeah i'd be really mad you sampled my samples lol

it's not theft at all hahahaha
#29
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Covers are pretty much paying homage to an artist, where as sampling is pretty much straight theft. If I "sampled" willt's "hard work" he'd be ****ing pissed if he wasn't getting paid.


People who sample still have to pay royalties.
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#30
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#32
if i wasnt so lazy id link to that video that shows how smack my bitch up was made to show how sampling is good
#33
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Covers are pretty much paying homage to an artist, where as sampling is pretty much straight theft. If I "sampled" willt's "hard work" he'd be ****ing pissed if he wasn't getting paid.

"Lesser artists borrow, great artists steal"

- Igor "da beatmaster" Stravinsky


edit: in a professional context he actually would be getting paid. Unless you want the pants sued off you. There is even a clause in copyright law to cover this, "derivative work".

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#34
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I think for context, you're either deliberately misreading whats in the OP or you're not reading at all. This is about other songs being sampled in other songs, not about sound design-like uses of sampling of any old thing that makes a noise.
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#36
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I think for context, you're either deliberately misreading whats in the OP or you're not reading at all. This is about other songs being sampled in other songs, not about sound design-like uses of sampling of any old thing that makes a noise.


I was jus' making a joke man

Still sorta relevant tho, I mean it's manipulating noise for a certain different sound and that's what sampling's all about, taking something and manipulating it for something interesting.
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#39
Music is made to be listened to and enjoyed. Any techniques to get there do not matter at all. It's completely irrelevant to the end product.
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