#1
Ok this is kind of a hypothetical question since I doubt I'll be able to afford what is necessary to make this happen, but I will go on:

I have an electronic drum kit, and I will soon be getting an amplifier set up for it. I also have a guitar, and an amp for it (duh).

I want to know if there is a way to make my bedroom (pretty small), sound like a live show. I'm talking amp placement (for the guitar AND drums). My current idea is to get a Simmons DA200S amp for the drums, but I'm thinking about it and I'm wondering if I should get maybe a 3-way speaker system for the drums to run through? I'd stick the speakers that handle the mids and high frequencies on the corners of the room on the wall, and stick a subwoofer in one of the corners, and put my guitar amp in the center of the two drum speakers.

Would something like this make it sound big as hell? Or would it be no different than just having a single amp for the drums? Brainstorming here guys...
#2
get a good small PA with at least 1x12 speaker cabs. plug the drums and mic the guitar amp through it.

This is not exactly cheap though, what is your budget?
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Quote by Robbgnarly
get a good small PA with at least 1x12 speaker cabs. plug the drums and mic the guitar amp through it.

This is not exactly cheap though, what is your budget?

well the drum amp I am thinking about is 320$, so I'd do like 450$ for the drum set up if it's worth it.

Will a PA speaker sound as good as an amp with 2 tweeters, 2 mids, and a sub? Because the DA200S has all that so I'm thinking that it sounds better than a PA Speaker with only two different speakers. (unless there are 5-ways that I don't know about)
#6
With your budget, get a decent amp for the kit and be done with it. Your only in a bedroom after all.
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Quote by Robbgnarly
With your budget, get a decent amp for the kit and be done with it. Your only in a bedroom after all.

yeah like I said this is just an idea. I like to think big. If I wasn't so tight with money right now I'd most likely go all out with it.
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yeah like I said this is just an idea. I like to think big. If I wasn't so tight with money right now I'd most likely go all out with it.

Well if you could get a decent small PA that would be best because it is something you can use while jamming, band practice and even some house party shows (I was a kid once )

It will be way easier to get a band together when you have equipment to do so.
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I imagine that is your reaction to my price range hahaha
Nah, man. Have you seen the size of the speaker stacks and amps at a big gig? The whole idea that you can emulate that in a bedroom is loony tunes. Think about it, you stick an actual recording of a big gig in a good hifi - does it come close to the concert experience? Of course not and it's absurd to expect that it would. That stadium sound comes from moving crazy amounts of air with gargantuan equipment, there isn't that much air in the entire bedroom.
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Nah, man. Have you seen the size of the speaker stacks and amps at a big gig? The whole idea that you can emulate that in a bedroom is loony tunes. Think about it, you stick an actual recording of a big gig in a good hifi - does it come close to the concert experience? Of course not and it's absurd to expect that it would. That stadium sound comes from moving crazy amounts of air with gargantuan equipment, there isn't that much air in the entire bedroom.

Yeah I understand. Just wondering if I could make it sound like sound is coming from all around you rather than from two sources ya know.
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But it doesn't come at you from all around at a big gig, it comes from two huge speaker stacks.
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But it doesn't come at you from all around at a big gig, it comes from two huge speaker stacks.

Then maybe I'm a revolutionary.
#13
Or delusional.
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You've never heard of interference patterns have you?
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You've never heard of interference patterns have you?

Is that another term for phasing?
#17
speaker arrays.

just one of these in each corner of the room

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Stadiums are outdoors, the best place to start is to start ripping your roof and wall out.
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I guess I don't mean stadium, I mean surround sound, or like sound is engulfing you. No identifiable source.
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Is that another term for phasing?
It's related.
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#21
Maybe headphones?
just a full tilt drum kit in a typical bedroom should create enough room modes and standing waves off the walls to choke a horse. Add a bunch of PA stuff in a tiny space and everything turns to mush. It's a physics thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_modes

There is a reason stadium concerts sound huge and it's not just the speakers.
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#22
^ it is an electric drum kit
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Buy a real drum kit.
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^ it is an electric drum kit

Definitely headphones then.
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#25
I love this guy's attitude. Keep your head up, man!

I don't think you'll be able to do anything huge, but I think headphones would be a good idea. I've had luck running my guitar into a line 6 pod and using headphones and getting fairly "big" sounds. Switch over to some computer monitors and it loses it. But having all the frequencies coming right at my ears it sounds "huge"
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#26
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I love this guy's attitude. Keep your head up, man!

I don't think you'll be able to do anything huge, but I think headphones would be a good idea. I've had luck running my guitar into a line 6 pod and using headphones and getting fairly "big" sounds. Switch over to some computer monitors and it loses it. But having all the frequencies coming right at my ears it sounds "huge"

This idea is for jamming purposes lol I already have some headphones.

But I think cathboard is onto something about the phasing. It would probably cause issues. I'm just gonna get the amp I was looking at **** it.
#27
i would say get yourself a small mixer setup and output to surround sound studio or good quality surround sound speakers mounted in your room ON TOP OF at least a 1x12 guitar amp setup (i assume you eitehr rig a red box or direct out from the amp or mic the amp into the mixer).

in a lower volume bedroom setting, a direct out would be ideal because at low volumes you have less sound hitting that mic in front of your amp. your speaker really isnt pushing at really low volumes. not the same tone.

but yeah that would be my plan for an ultimate "sudio-ish" bedroom tone.
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