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So recently my amp (40w ashdown fallen angel 112) has been having some issues (it sounds kinda farty/thin/no where near as ballsy as it used to but thats a topic for another thread).

I'm suspecting it might be a tube problem but due to the costs of replacing them i figured this might just be a good time to upgrade.

budget is around £400

now my first thought was to get a Peavey 6505 112 combo for about £368
http://www.thomann.de/gb/peavey_6505_plus_112_combo.htm

as aside from potentially needing a speaker upgrade down the line i've heard nothing but good things about them.

alternatively i was considering getting the harley benton 212 cab
http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_g212_vintage.htm

and then a head with the remainder of the budget (probably a bugera 6260 or something similar)
http://www.thomann.de/gb/bugera_6260_infinium.htm

having the head-cab is kind of appealing for portability reasons, being able to just take the head to gigs if they have a cab there and getting a cheap 112 cab to leave at practice locations so i don't have to lug a combo around and up and down stairs would be convenient.

Now i was wondering if anyone could suggest some alternatives around that budget that i should check out before making any decisions. Preferably amps that are good all rounders as to generalise the genres I play, it goes from alt rock to metal.

cheers

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#2
Harley benton G212 vintage + jet city jca100HDM or whatever else jet city to which to add a depth knob (easy mod, google's your friend).

The 6505+ combo is nice indeed, yeah!
It may be better depending on what you wanna play exactly, so what you wanna play exactly?

Bugera amps in general have lotsa reliability issues.
They got better with the years but they still have problems so I wouldn't really gig with one of those.
At a gig I found a guy with a 2009-or-so 6260 that he told me he never had problems with, and both him and my guitarist played through it that night and we haven't had any problems - it even sounded pretty good!
Though it's not a thing I'd really gig with without having a backup amp.
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+1 on jet city- the 50 watt head if you want it to be as cheap as possible. combined with the g212 vintage, yeah. hard to beat that for £400.

haven't tried the cheaper 6505 MIC combo but the bigger USA-made heads are great.

haven't tried bugera but they have the rep of sounding pretty good but having iffy reliability.
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cheers for the tips gents, so it seems like the harley benton cab is a good bet.

So I've been reading good things about the jet city heads sound quality and build quality wise and mixed reports regarding the bugeras : / which is a shame because the infinium circuit sounds like it could save a lot of hassle having to take the amp to a tech for biasing as i like to do as much of my own teching as possible (mainly for financial reasons) and being able to just swap tubes in and out and be done sounds really handy.

i guess ill just have to decide if i want reliability or ease of maintenance

cheers

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So I've been reading good things about the jet city heads sound quality and build quality wise and mixed reports regarding the bugeras
Thing is, bugeras sound good but have problems.
If you're not good at fixing stuff yourself get a jet city, it's not like it'll sound bad in any case...

Also the infinium thing in particular seems to have some problems so I'm not sure if I would buy one just for that reason.
Also, the Jet City 50w has 2 6L6s, it's not a big hassle to maintain.
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it's the biasing, i assume, not the cost of the 6L6es.

but yeah if you want to minimise maintenance, I'm not sure buying an amp which saves time on biasing but which might have other, far more serious, problems which might require far more involved maintenance, is the best plan...
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it's the biasing, i assume, not the cost of the 6L6es.

but yeah if you want to minimise maintenance, I'm not sure buying an amp which saves time on biasing but which might have other, far more serious, problems which might require far more involved maintenance, is the best plan...


yeah its the biasing that would be a problem i like to be as self sufficient as possible when it comes to maintaining my gear which is why the infinium auto biasing thing was appealing but i understand whet you mean regarding the supposed issues with bugera meaning i might not even get to the point where i need to retube.
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Bugera's sound great but have horrible reliability. I owned a 333 and had nothing but issues over 3 years of owning it.

Jet City make great sounding heads.
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yeah its the biasing that would be a problem i like to be as self sufficient as possible when it comes to maintaining my gear which is why the infinium auto biasing thing was appealing but i understand whet you mean regarding the supposed issues with bugera meaning i might not even get to the point where i need to retube.


haha yeah

you could always look for cathode-biased heads. if any sound the way you want. they don't need to be biased, far as i'm aware. they tend to be more vintage-sounding amps, though.
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