#1
I have wanted a Gibson sg for a very long time now and it's probably my favourite guitar but being a teenager and having a very low amount of money coming in I have thought about getting an Epi g400. There is a guy selling one in my area for only $200 so I could afford it right now. I know they sound good but what I don't know is the build quality. Does anyone have it that could help me out here? Thanks
Last edited by supertastydonut at May 6, 2014,
#2
G400's are not bad guitars. People who own them generally have positive things to say about them.
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#3
I have an Epi Les Paul Custom Pro, and I actually chose it over other ones, such as the Gibson Stusio, and ESP EC-1000.

Epiphones are actually better than a lot of other guitars, just have a band name since they used to be independent and copy Gibson.
#5
I was the same; I had heard so much bad, even the name made me cringe. I went from a Schecter Hellraiser C-1 FR Diamond Series with EMG Actives, I love my LS Pro Custom a LOT better, also, not sure what you've used in the past, but most LP body styles have a shorter scale than "Strat" bodies, making string bending a LOT easier.

Allows for more of a "moody" guitar.
#6
My current guitar is a prs se santana and it does have a short scale length so I know what you mean. My brother has a strat and I find the neck is too long in my opinion.
#12
My Sheraton is probably the sexiest hollowbody around.

In all seriousness, it looks great. And plays great. And sounds great. See where I'm going with this?

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#13
I too had an Epiphone G-400. I think mine was built in the late 90's early 2000's somewhere in there. Anyway, I really don't have a negative thing to say about them. Solid guitar for the money, especially if you can get that used one for $200. I did a few upgrades to mine: a Gibson Tony Iommi signature pickup in the bridge, had a graphite nut made, and straplocks. It was a bit neck heavy, but a strap with a grippy texture made that kind of a non-issue. With a smooth nylon strap it was annoying though. I regret selling mine. I was ready to buy a brand new G-400 pro actually, but decided to go with a 2014 Gibson SGJ instead. I was impressed by the new G-400's, though.
#14
My nephew recently got a g400 pro. Intonation was way off and action was quite high, but a simple setup fixed it. It is good for the price, though quality is not as good as my old MIJs if you take a closer look. He is a teen who likes a shiny, new guitar so I can't convince him to get a used one. Go ahead if you like how it sounds and feel.

BTW I like the pickup options of the pro.
Last edited by royc at May 7, 2014,
#15
Gibson owns Epiphone, they don't 'make' them, Chinese and Korean (and Japanese and admitedly some are made in America but not an SG400) people 'make' them. Having said that, I cannot fault ANY of the Epiphones that I have owned as far as build quality goes. They've always been solid and reliable. As far as the SG goes, I had a G400 in faded cherry which I bought new a couple of years ago. I kept it for all of 3 months and sold it for what I paid for it, purely because I didn't like the lack of solidness of the neck and body, body more so. I didn't like its tendency to be neck heavy, and didn't have much faith in the joint to the body, it felt flimsy to me. It played fine though, and no doubt Id have gotten used to the design of the guitar but by then Id got hold of an Epiphone LP Custom and was hooked on LP's.
#16
I can say about the same. Solid guitar for the money. I have an G-400 and I think it sounds great. It has nice playability. I don't like the heavy neck because it drops when you're standing but that is the only downside really. Obviously a Gibson will be nicer but Epiphones aren't just cheap knock-offs. They're actually pretty nice.
#17
They're okay, but I wouldn't waste money on one. You're better off saving for a gibson.
#19
Quote by supertastydonut
I have wanted a Gibson sg for a very long time now and it's probably my favourite guitar but being a teenager and having a very low amount of money coming in I have thought about getting an Epi g400. There is a guy selling one in my area for only $200 so I could afford it right now. I know they sound good but what I don't know is the build quality. Does anyone have it that could help me out here? Thanks

Epiphones are great and more reasonable than Gibsons pricewise. I bought a Elitist Casino a couple years ago...flawless and awesome with Gibson P90's in it. Monster hollowbody guitar...I love it especially with light gauge flatwounds. I don't know if they still make the "Elitist" series but if they do...check them out...a little more $ than a regualar Epi but very high quality. That being said...200 for a guitar you like...sounds good. Sometimes hardware can be an issue but hardware is easy to change if necessary. I know a guy who buys really inexpensive guitars and slowly upgrades the hardware and pickups etc...great sounding instruments when he is done and learned a ton about guitar construction and electronics in the process for really short money...a piece at a time. Hope this info helps.
#20
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They're okay, but I wouldn't waste money on one. You're better off saving for a gibson.


How many did you play or even own ?

or did you hear it on the web ?
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How many did you play or even own ?

or did you hear it on the web ?


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#22
Just make sure you look it over really well. I had one (G400) a few years ago. The neck was set in too low and there was no real way to get the action lower then to file/grind off the bottom part of the bridge where it sits on the adjustment pins.

After that the action was nice and I really wanted to like it but the neck was super unstable and went in and out of tune while playing. And the stock pickups suckedass.

$200 for a g400 kinda points to POS territory.

I would never buy another epi and I don't think I would ever buy a Gibson except for a Firebird. The are way overpriced for guitars that you have to search and play 20+ for one that feels and sounds good. The Epis are made by 15 year olds in China and Korea and are built for less than $50. Why do they cost so much to buy?
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#24
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How many did you play or even own ?

or did you hear it on the web ?

Both I have played one but not the g400
#25
Quote by supertastydonut
Both I have played one but not the g400


Impressive to get that conclusion out of of your experience.....
#26
OP - you don't say how far along you are with your guitar studies. A Gibson could be massive overkill (I'd love one, but it would be like putting a Ferrari in the hands of an old age pensioner who doesn't go above 20mph).

I personally would go with an Epiphone, before spending monster bucks on a Gibson. I've only played the LP Studio, but I found it much more comfortable for my fingers (not squashed) and I fell in love with the sustain and tone which to my mind are much better than my Yamaha.

It would be a shame if you saved for a Gibson, bought it, then didn't get on with it.
#27
I use an Epiphone SG Prophecy Custom EX as my main guitar and I love it. Epiphone guitars are great, however, if you're buying a G400, I'd change the PUs.
#28
Quote by supertastydonut
I have decided to save for a used Gibson because there is some good deals in the area I am in.


I think you're making the right choice. If you got the Epiphone, you may (or may not) have a decent guitar, but you're always going to have that itch for the Gibson, and you'll be $200 further from having it. Pick up some odd-jobs here and there if you have to, and enjoy your Gibson when you get it!
#29
Quote by supertastydonut
Both I have played one but not the g400


Thats a pretty decent sample then, played one, but read they suck on the interwebs... I have 2 Gibson Les Pauls, have 1 Epiphone Les Paul, and have owned 2 other Epiphone Les Pauls as well as the G400 I had a few years ago... Guess which ones have the faults as far as finish go (they play fine otherwise theyd both be sold by now) and guess which ones don't have faults in their finish's and play just as good as theyre big brothers??? Epiphones aren't all junk, if you are prepaired to pay about $400 for a new one you should be fine. Theyre less hit and miss than Gibson in my experience, and subject to popular belief, sound just as good as a 'real one', and if they don't, swap the PUP's and your rockin.

Me, myself, I hate SG's to play. To look at, spectaculare... Angus and an SG is rock and roll... To the OP, find a second hand one before you commit the big bucks for a Gibson because you may not like the feel of it after a while. At the very least get out and play some.