#1
I've had this thread posted many times before in the last two years but never reached a conclusion. Looking for a good flying V for the money.

I play mainly thrash metal, listen to a lot of Megadeth, Iron Maiden, Slayer, Sepultura etc.

Wants:
1. Good pick-ups, doesn't matter if they're active or not. (at this price point).
2. 24 frets
3. String-Thru bridge, I don't mess around with the whammy a lot and I'm no good at setting up floyd rose bridges and all that stuff, I also change tunings quite frequently.
4. Jumbo frets.
5. A pointy shape, I do not prefer those 'rounded' corners on Vs like gibson has.

I've already checked out all of the Dave Mustaine signatures, but all of them are just way too big, especially the Vs he plays, they just look over sized.

Please begin :P
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#2
It's going to be a pretty narrow selection. Jackson makes a string through 24 fret guitar (RR24XT) but it's slighty more than 500 bucks.


Ibanez made a V called the VBT700 which are pretty sweet if you can find. They're closer in shape to the Mustaine Dean V.
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#3
http://jacksonguitars.com/guitars/king-v/models/js32t-king-v-rosewood-fingerboard-strings-thru-body-gloss-black/

http://jacksonguitars.com/guitars/rhoads/models/js32t-rhoads-rosewood-fingerboard-strings-thru-body-white-with-black-bevels/

this is all i can really think of in the price range that fits the criteria more or less. They wont be the best (bolt on neck for example) but they should be fairly decent. Atleast a starting point
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It's going to be a pretty narrow selection. Jackson makes a string through 24 fret guitar (RR24XT) but it's slighty more than 500 bucks.

See I can't really raise my budget, I don't live in the united states or anywhere you can find guitars easily. I have to get this shipped from abroad, so much of my cash is being scooped up there.
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Ibanez made a V called the VBT700 which are pretty sweet if you can find. They're closer in shape to the Mustaine Dean V.

Damn! Just saw this, and have to say I am in love! Just checked everything about it out, though I wasn't able to find any price listed for it anywhere on the web, strange, do you know how much it costs ?

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this is all i can really think of in the price range that fits the criteria more or less. They wont be the best (bolt on neck for example) but they should be fairly decent. Atleast a starting point

I've already checked these out, these are good guitars for the money yes, but then again, rather than affordable, i'd actually say they are cheap, being honest. I heard from people that if I extended my budget to 500$ I could get something better. These will still remain options though.
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See I can't really raise my budget, I don't live in the united states or anywhere you can find guitars easily. I have to get this shipped from abroad, so much of my cash is being scooped up there.

Damn! Just saw this, and have to say I am in love! Just checked everything about it out, though I wasn't able to find any price listed for it anywhere on the web, strange, do you know how much it costs ?


I've already checked these out, these are good guitars for the money yes, but then again, rather than affordable, i'd actually say they are cheap, being honest. I heard from people that if I extended my budget to 500$ I could get something better. These will still remain options though.



you can't find the price cause they don't make them anymore. Unfortunately you'd have to hunt for a used one.


I see them for around 400-600 USD in used condition. If you're looking for a new guitar then your options would basically be Jackson or DBZ/Dean for a guitar that fits what you're looking for.
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They're discontinued ? Shit, that sucks.
Damn why is gear so expensive, What are your views on 'other companies' like fernandes and tokai ?
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They're discontinued ? Shit, that sucks.
Damn why is gear so expensive, What are your views on 'other companies' like fernandes and tokai ?



Depending on the model, pretty good.
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What are your views on 'other companies' like fernandes and tokai ?

never tried a 24 fret tokai or fernandez "V" but if they're on par with the rest of the (mij) stuff they make, they're probably top notch.
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never tried a 24 fret tokai or fernandez "V" but if they're on par with the rest of the (mij) stuff they make, they're probably top notch.


Hello gregs, we meet again, haha, you answered this thread a year ago as well

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Esp ltd have some half decent v guitars
http://www.espguitars.co.uk/guitars-ltd-v.html

Yes I just checked out the LTD V-50, I can't really seem to find any worthy reviews of it, from what i've read about them so far is that they are 'amazing' axes for the price. What do you think ? I'm considering this and a Dean VMNTX at the moment, but from what i've heard is that cheap ESP/LTDs are better than cheap deans.
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What are your views on 'other companies' like fernandes and tokai ?

Fernandes makes good instruments- I own 2 Ravelles. Their Vs are on the short list of V's I'd consider buying.

Right now, they have some of their guitars on clearance sale, disrespect from the company. Discounts are substantial, but they're "while supplies last" only.

http://www.fernandesguitarshop.com/vortex/77-vortex-deluxe-limited.html

www.fernandesguitarshop.com/28-vortex-x.html

www.fernandesguitarshop.com/v-hawk/32-v-hawk-x.html
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B.C. Rich Jr V's and Agile Hornet V's would be within your budget, I can vouch that Agile's are definitely worth your money in features.
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B.C. Rich Jr V's and Agile Hornet V's would be within your budget, I can vouch that Agile's are definitely worth your money in features.


I was going to suggest these as well. Never played either but both have the specs you're looking for. Try the Agile Custom Shop for the Hornet you really want to your specs and it includes a hard case.
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Yes I just checked out the LTD V-50, I can't really seem to find any worthy reviews of it, from what i've read about them so far is that they are 'amazing' axes for the price. What do you think ? I'm considering this and a Dean VMNTX at the moment, but from what i've heard is that cheap ESP/LTDs are better than cheap deans.

I can attest for ESP as a whole, their build quality is superb. (my luthier was extremely impressed, commented about how "theres a reason used ESPs are starting to sell for more than used gibsons") I have a V-401fm (higher end model) and it is amazing. I went through 2 other Vs before deciding on my current (bc rich Jr V and Jackson King V) ESP is great. My problem with the BC Rich was the shape of the V. It is a very thin V and the points are fairly rounded, its personally not what appealed to me, but the build quality was flawless (keep in mind i got the NJ Deluxe model). The Jackson was good shape wise but i had lots of build issues, it had nice playability but i went through 3 returns with major factory defects (defective pickups, stripped screws, handfulls of floyd issues) before i decided enough was enough. You do not want a Floyd the so i wouldnt imagine you having the exact problems i had
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I can attest for ESP as a whole, their build quality is superb. (my luthier was extremely impressed, commented about how "theres a reason used ESPs are starting to sell for more than used gibsons") I have a V-401fm (higher end model) and it is amazing. I went through 2 other Vs before deciding on my current (bc rich Jr V and Jackson King V) ESP is great. My problem with the BC Rich was the shape of the V. It is a very thin V and the points are fairly rounded, its personally not what appealed to me, but the build quality was flawless (keep in mind i got the NJ Deluxe model). The Jackson was good shape wise but i had lots of build issues, it had nice playability but i went through 3 returns with major factory defects (defective pickups, stripped screws, handfulls of floyd issues) before i decided enough was enough. You do not want a Floyd the so i wouldnt imagine you having the exact problems i had




as a whole? and you actually don't own a ESP. LTD is the budget brand. and a handfull doesn't speak for anything. if you have owned five or six at different budgets and had different models, mayby you could say you know LTD well.

do you say "Fender Affinity Strat" that is a squier.

and that is not a higher end model its middle of the road. i have owned several LTD's and they are nice, but definitely would't go for less than a 400. mine were EC's though. decent guitar. i would take it over the BC rich and the Dean though.
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#18
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/2008-Ibanez-VBT-700-Flying-V-electric-guitar-/161306495366?pt=Guitar&hash=item258e9dc986

There's the Ibanez for sale for $450. Not sure if they'd ship it outside of the US though... Schecter made a couple V's as well and they're pretty decent.

Not a problem, myus.com delivers everything right at your doorstep, the issue here is that it's a used guitar and I won't be able to test it out before purchasing . Not that I can test out new guitars that i'll be ordering but hey, they'll be new, so the obligation to test the guitar out lessens.

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Try the Agile Custom Shop for the Hornet you really want to your specs and it includes a hard case.

I'm pretty sure the custom shop will cost way more than 500$

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A little above your price, but...

I'm poor
What can I do, I have to pay like 300$ just for getting the guitar all the way over to my place.
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I'm not really one for Dean guitars. But that's just me.

Plus, I've learned guitars with those shapes are pretty heavy and I like light guitars but these are just my preferences. You may really like it.
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I own 2 Deans that I love to pieces: I would not buy a Dean that costs under $500 as its normal, non-discounted price.
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as a whole? and you actually don't own a ESP. LTD is the budget brand.

Yes i know i don't own an ESP, i accidently left of the LTD part, sorry. The model suggested to him was an LTD so i can still give my opinion.
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and that is not a higher end model its middle of the road.

I didn't say a high end model, i said higher end, referring to the fact that its a higher end model than the one he is looking at, which it is

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i have owned several LTD's and they are nice, but definitely would't go for less than a 400. mine were EC's though. decent guitar. i would take it over the BC rich and the Dean though.

Exactly, for what they do (budget) they do it very well. Of all the cheaper models from makers they are the ones i would trust the most for quality.

Im not saying drop everything thats the one you need, im giving my opinion on my personal experience about the makers that i have tried, and the problems, just so the TS is aware. Sorry if there were some accidental errors
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Nothing particularly good or bad about it, it's average for a guitar in that price range.

right it's just average for the dough in his price point.


but i'd take it over the dean all day long.