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#1
Right guys, try not to get yourselves banned with this one.

Porn has always been slated as being purely misogynistic and for the pleasure of men. The general consensus for a pornstar would be a blonde, slutty mouthed, fake titted, anal loving, cum swallowing ***** who is willing to take it from as many men as the director wanted.

Now, of course we still have those angels doing those for our sexual desires but i've come to notice an increase of more female friendly productions. Again, not saying these have never existed, but in the past few years there has been an increase of productions and the genre seems to have become very much appreciated.

If you don't know what i'm talking about then i'll describe it (so I don't get perm banned for directing you haha)
Conventions of the genre
- Young, natural girls, you'd be mistaken for thinking the girl was a model she is that beautiful.
- Young, attractive men, again, the guys look like they could be models.
- An extreme focus on the male and female, the background is often out of focus
- Extra care taken with cinematography
- Pacing is very smooth and soft
- The sex is very gentile for the girl
- There is never any narrative, or dialogue, simply, a girl and a guy are together and have passionate intercourse.


I think this type of porn could really help change the image of the industry. This is porn where women aren't treated as being **** toys but almost like goddesses as they are gracefully being ****ed. It doesn't even seem right to say they're being ****ed, its too graceful!

More and more guys seem to be turned off by the saturation of stereotypical pornstars and their plastic features.

Could this influence the way we see porn? Will it make it less of a taboo?
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#2
oh god, this can't be good...
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#4
But that's boring!

What will happen to all the hardcore donkey anal fisting we've all come to know and love?
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#6
Haha I know, i'm really risking it starting such a thread in the pit of all places, but with a place full of horny guys, I see it as being the perfect place.
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#7
I like this idea. I don't know, but each time I fap I feel guilty afterwards. Is it just me?
#9
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But that's boring!

What will happen to all the hardcore donkey anal fisting we've all come to know and love?


Honestly, I like hardcore porn. No donkey anal fisting lol, but actually rough sex type porn. Who wants to jerk of to some slut being treated like the queen of Egypt?

**** that. I'll take hardcore porn over artsy nubile women-friendly crap ANY DAY.
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#10
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Porn has always been slated as being purely misogynistic


the issue has always been split among feminists.
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#12
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I like this idea. I don't know, but each time I fap I feel guilty afterwards. Is it just me?


I know a lot of guys that feel the same. Personally, its become more and more rare for me to feel guilty. It depends on the girl and her enjoyment/comfort really.

With extreme porn you're way more likely to feel guilty as its simply not comfortable for the girl/woman.

However I find that with female friendly 'art' porn, my conscious is very clear.
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#13
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The general consensus for a pornstar would be a blonde, slutty mouthed, [etc.]

I think that's more the standard pushed by directors and producers and such. It's sort of the Top 40 pop genre, so to speak. There are tons of niches in porn and while that's the prevailing look, I think it's slowly losing ground to those other looks.

For example, I know of one actress (is that the acceptable term?) who, while usually on the chunky side, has actively started losing weight. When her fans complained, her response was basically, "I know my fans like me with more weight, but it doesn't pay the bills." The people want things more catered to their tastes, but the producers pay more for what they they think looks good.

Edit:
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the issue has always been split among feminists.

Also this. It's hard to argue that something is wrong and horrible when it turns you on. Some people just plain like the intense, hardcore stuff.
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#14
From my own point of view, that shit is boring. If I'm watching porn it's because I'm feeling particularly horny and want something that I don't get. I get passionate sex from my girlfriend
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#15
So do you and your friends just have porn clubs or something? Do you have to alternate biweekly with the poetry club or what?
#17
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Honestly, I like hardcore porn. No donkey anal fisting lol, but actually rough sex type porn. Who wants to jerk of to some slut being treated like the queen of Egypt?

**** that. I'll take hardcore porn over artsy nubile women-friendly crap ANY DAY.


Thats fine, I mean, depends on the mood really. But I think its interesting to see how the increase of alternative female friendly porn will affect the general attitude to how we see porn. I don't think its fair at all to judge the industry based purely from the hardcore market.
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#18
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I know of one actress (is that the acceptable term?)


yeah, or performer or model.

edit: the use of the word slut in this thread to refer to women ends right now.
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#20
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So do you and your friends just have porn clubs or something? Do you have to alternate biweekly with the poetry club or what?


im gonna start a fap club at my school. Wanna join? It's gonna be fun
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#21
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I think that's more the standard pushed by directors and producers and such. It's sort of the Top 40 pop genre, so to speak. There are tons of niches in porn and while that's the prevailing look, I think it's slowly losing ground to those other looks.

For example, I know of one actress (is that the acceptable term?) who, while usually on the chunky side, has actively started losing weight. When her fans complained, her response was basically, "I know my fans like me with more weight, but it doesn't pay the bills." The people want things more catered to their tastes, but the producers pay more for what they they think looks good.

Edit:

Also this. It's hard to argue that something is wrong and horrible when it turns you on. Some people just plain like the intense, hardcore stuff.


Interesting points!

Yeah i'd still say the mainstream pornstar is represented as being the generic plastic cum slut, and that directors/others are definitely for what you've said.

The industry is such a complicated place, some are able to go in and out and live without regrets, even some of the biggest hardcore stars such as Asa Akira and Kayden Kross. But still have to remember how girls can spiral down into even darker pits than UGs very own pit
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#22
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What?


Yea I'm sure the concept of two humans having sex is foreign to you.
#23
eh at the end of the day it's not that different from normal pornography and it's still gonna be shaping individual expectations of sex & standards of beauty in young + impressionable minds (possibly even more so than before since there's such a heavy emphasis on the production)




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#24
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eh at the end of the day it's not that different from normal pornography and it's still gonna be shaping individual expectations of sex & standards of beauty in young + impressionable minds (possibly even more so than before since there's such a heavy emphasis on the production)


Very true.
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#25
A math professor at UC Berkeley did some kind of naked arty math film. I don't believe he fits any of your criteria.
#26
though i've read various scholarly articles dismissing this idea (and plenty supporting it as well), i believe our pornography is a reflection of gender in our society and works almost entirely to reinforce the norm, not create new ideas about gender.

that said, many feminists as well as myself celebrate widespread pornography as a medium for sexual expression.
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#27
The implication that women don't enjoy porn too would be funny if it weren't so common.
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#28
I like going through pictures of women normal that aren't playing with themselves or using toys. Just being naturally sexy or instead of bolted on tited thin as a straw models (dont't get me wrong, there hawt) banging 3 guys. I enjoy it much more than hardcore, Mainly because its a celebration there body's instead of trying to see how many loads she can handle.

hopefully that makes sense im pretty tired
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#29
There's actually at least one company that already does stuff like this, and they're very good.
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#30
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I like going through pictures of women normal that aren't playing with themselves or using toys. Just being naturally sexy or instead of bolted on tited thin as a straw models (dont't get me wrong, there hawt) banging 3 guys. I enjoy it much more than hardcore, Mainly because its a celebration there body's instead of trying to see how many loads she can handle.

hopefully that makes sense im pretty tired


i almost exclusively browse images of models, usually clothed.
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#34
I came because of porn
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#35
I've seen a fair bit of porn....and I actually quite like some of the 'Art Porn' that's getting to be more common.

I've often felt that the porn I watch can be a reflection of myself, and I've seen some porn that I've done my business to, and then felt really dirty afterward, because it's pretty clear that the girl screaming whilst getting a load blown in her asshole isn't actually enjoying it. But in the art porn vids, both parties seem to enjoy it, which makes me enjoy it more.

Hopefully that made sense, I'm tired as balls......
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#36
There's a bunch of porn production companies that make these "tasteful" (imo) videos. Some of them are Nubile and X-Art. They have a more romantic feel, less crude, nothing that looks abusive or excessive to either the male or female character and they actually have relaxing music. I'm not sure it only appeals to women or if a lot of men also like this porn but I certainly like it. It's the only kind of porn that makes me think, Hey I wanna be ****ed like that.

Mostly because the women look like they have equal power in the situation as the man and it's not just the man pounding away at this girl who squeals and screams rather uncomfortably (in most porn I've seen). And there's rarely any unrealistic story of teach/student, boss/employee or anything. The titles will always say some story but usually it's nice, lovely sex.

Edit: Pretty much what was said ^
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#37
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eh at the end of the day it's not that different from normal pornography and it's still gonna be shaping individual expectations of sex & standards of beauty in young + impressionable minds (possibly even more so than before since there's such a heavy emphasis on the production)

Related to this:

I think I know the type of porn you're referring to TS, but whilst it is a lot more female friendly and would probably be welcomed by certain strands of feminism (being less humiliating, and more focused on the couple rather than just the woman and a penis), art porn is different to feminist porn.

As far as I'm aware, there is a growing trend of feminist porn, but it's slightly different to "art porn" (which as you say, is basically just nicer looking, less aggressive, and uses soft focus).

EDIT: ^ also what he said.
All I'm saying though, is that whilst it's a lot nicer compared to a lot of porn, "feminist porn" as a label refers to a different trend.
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#39
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nah. i had become desensitized to everything. i took a long break from porn then came back and found that i could get off on real soft core stuff. i like it better this way.
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#40
I stick to amateur stuff, I hate when the guy tries to hold the camera when he's banging her though, just put the camera on the f*cking bedside table.
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