#1
I got an ibanez grg250dx and a line6 spider iv 15 when it's good at the clean but when i add distortion it gets realy muddy and noisy would changing the pickups improve the sound or should i change the amp i am thinking of adding EMG 81 bridge and EMG 60 neck
#2
Always change the amp before you change pickups. The pickups actually don't change the sound too drastically unless your amp is really good. You probably won't hear the difference at all with the Spider.

What kind of music do you play and what's your budget? Also define "noisy".
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#3
Also would help to know what kind of EQ you're using at the minute.
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#4
i play metal and some time joe satriani it's good with solos but when i play power chords i hear more of the distortion than the tone
#6
Are you using a distortion pedal for the tone or the amp's distortion? Not that it really matters. You still probably need a new amp, sorry to say.
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New or used? For the new price you could probably do better with a small cab and a head.
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Quote by omarhassan600d
a line6 spider iv 15

That's your issue. Line 6 spiders are notorious for bad tone.


See, putting actives in isn't really going to make the tone coming out of your line 6 spider better. Why? Because your amp sucks. Replace your amp. Then, later...when you already have a good amp, consider whether to replace your pickups with actives.
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Quote by crazysam23_Atax
That's your issue. Line 6 spiders are notorious for bad tone.


See, putting actives in isn't really going to make the tone coming out of your line 6 spider better. Why? Because your amp sucks. Replace your amp. Then, later...when you already have a good amp, consider whether to replace your pickups with actives.


Well that was rather harsh. I used to have a spider III way back when I started (great practice amp), but I can't remember the distortion ever being "muddy". Could be a multitude of things. If you are open to getting a new amp perhaps you should shop around then. There are plenty sub 1k amps that are more than stellar; especially used.
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Quote by crazysam23_Atax
That's your issue. Line 6 spiders are notorious for bad tone.


See, putting actives in isn't really going to make the tone coming out of your line 6 spider better. Why? Because your amp sucks. Replace your amp. Then, later...when you already have a good amp, consider whether to replace your pickups with actives.


Blunt comment is blunt.

But yeah. That's basically what I was trying to say without being harsh.

Also, people need to start differentiating tube and solid state Spiders....
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#13
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Well that was rather harsh.

Quote by TheStig1214
Blunt comment is blunt.

But yeah. That's basically what I was trying to say without being harsh.

Wasn't trying to be overly harsh; I apologize. (I'm a blunt guy, sometimes.) But it's a cheaper end practice amp, which isn't a bad thing...just a thing. Anyway, you'll never get a good tone out of those things. He might as well be told that now, before he rushes off to spend $150 on EMGs, and his tone still isn't what he wants.



Quote by TheStig1214
Also, people need to start differentiating tube and solid state Spiders....

Iirc, the Spider IV is a solid state modelling amp, no?


Aren't the Line 6 DT line tube amps? If TS wants to stay with a Line 6, then I'd recommend he check out something in that line.
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Quote by Jmoarguitar
I used to have a spider III way back when I started (great practice amp)

Nope.
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Quote by crazysam23_Atax
Iirc, the Spider IV is a solid state modelling amp, no?


Aren't the Line 6 DT line tube amps? If TS wants to stay with a Line 6, then I'd recommend he check out something in that line.


There is the "Spider Valve" series of amps which are pretty good IMO. There's the 112, the 212 and the HD100 head.
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Quote by TheStig1214
There is the "Spider Valve" series of amps which are pretty good IMO. There's the 112, the 212 and the HD100 head.

That's what I was seeing on the Spider website. They were under the "DT line". But yeah, anyway...
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Quote by crazysam23_Atax
(I'm a blunt guy, sometimes.)


You don't say...



But yeah I agree, I'd seriously consider swapping the amp before swapping pickups.
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#18
Quote by omarhassan600d
iam using the amp's distortion what do you think of the Marshall DSL40C ?

It think it sounds about 1000 times better than your Spider. If you play mostly metal check out the Peavey 6505+ 112 combo too.
#19
You can get a good metal tone from a spider amp despite what some people here think. But anyway use the insane channel for distortion, set treble to around 9, drive to somewhere between 6-9, and just mess around with bass and mid until you find something. If you still can't get any good tone, then upgrade your amp.