#1
I was casually browsing MF and saw it on sale as a Level 3 used for an awesome price. I wasn't really in the market for a new guitar, but it was a steal of a deal. Also, past experience told me that Level 3 from MF was still pretty good. I dipped into the home renovation budget and she came in earlier today.



My first impression of this guitar is very positive. It handles and plays really well. It's getting new pickups, some GFS Pro Series, probably this weekend. Also going to need a new nut, but that is to be expected with just about any budget guitar. But it plays good, so I am fine with a few changes.

The only issues are that 2 of the tuners are a bit loose. It doesn't seem to affect the tuning. I am not worried about it because I ordered some Schaller style locking tuners right after I bought the guitar. Also, I am getting a bit of fret buzz on it. The neck looks good, so I am sure it needs some fret work. If I had bought it new I'd be pissed, but at under $400 shipped to my door I am fine with it. Also, my tech does great work at an affordable rate for me, so it doesn't bother me from that aspect.

She is also getting some new tuners and pup rings when I put the new pups and nut in. Probably just going to leave it with my tech this coming weekend and sort it out. After that I would gig with this guitar any time. It feels really nice.

All that said, she really is a good player. The body is a little thicker than most other SE models I've played, and I love the shorter scale and the wide-fat neck. Body and neck feel good, and that is all I really ask of a guitar, because you can change everything else.

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#2
locking tuners....

2 SEs ? what different tunings? i may have switched it up if it were me, but two very nice guitars. SEs are players. after owning a guitar with locking tuners, dont think im never going back.
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#3
Sick guitar! I like the other PRS too.

Your pedalboard looks like a mess! Ahah
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#4
Nice, always fancied one of them. Why does it need a new nut?
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#5
Quote by ikey_
2 SEs ?

No, look at the headstock on the Custom -- it doesn't have the SE truss rod cover. It's an S2.


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#6
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Nice, always fancied one of them. Why does it need a new nut?
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Well, it's really tight and binding up the strings. And replacement nuts are cheap enough anyway. I would rather just order a Tusq and have my tech work it out than try to do it myself and risk cutting it too deep instead of widening the slots. PRS seesm to be notorious for bad nuts from the factory. Even my S2 needs a new nut.
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#8
I just used the StewMac nut files and fixed the nut on my SE 245. I also upgraded to 10-46 strings. The pickups are fine IMO for a guitar that costs under $600 New.
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#9
Quote by KenG
I just used the StewMac nut files and fixed the nut on my SE 245. I also upgraded to 10-46 strings. The pickups are fine IMO for a guitar that costs under $600 New.


Mine may work. If so I'll just chunk the GFS pups into the parts bin. I may break down and just order a Seymour Duncan JB and a Jazz. IMO that is a sweet set.
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Quote by Fryer Mike
Sick guitar! I like the other PRS too.

Your pedalboard looks like a mess! Ahah


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I recently got it back together after leaving it out long enough for my 2 yr old son to pull everything apart and hide 4 of the pedals in various location throughout the house. My TS clone was missing for 3 days.
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#13
sweet nice colour
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#14
Just to add a bit... I'm not a affiliated with MF... but this is the 2nd time I've ordered a Level 3 used guitar from MF, and on both occasions the guitar has arrived in excellent condition. On both occasions the guitar I received looked much better than one hanging on the wall at Guitar Center. I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger on a used guitar from MF. The experience for me has been great.

As to the sound... really nice. I guess that is what matters. I have zebra looking pups, and even though I have some GFS Pro Series that are arriving today, they sound good enough that they might stay in there.

The plan is to have some hotter pups in the S2 Cu24, and some smooter, bluesier pups in the SE 245. But they both sound so good I am not in a hurry either way.
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#15
Yeah I recently bought a Level 3 G&L ASAT Deluxe from MF and it was a brand new guitar "(still had all the plastic on the pickups), but the tip of the 3-way switch had broken off. So I only paid $287 for a $599 guitar. What did you end up getting it for?
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Quote by Robbgnarly
Yeah I recently bought a Level 3 G&L ASAT Deluxe from MF and it was a brand new guitar "(still had all the plastic on the pickups), but the tip of the 3-way switch had broken off. So I only paid $287 for a $599 guitar. What did you end up getting it for?


$396, I think.

I had the same thing that you described happen with an Ibanez AS73 I bought from MF. It was listed as a Level 3, but when it arrive it was obviously brand new. The foam wrapping was untouched, and the plastic was still on the pups. For that matter, the plastic is still on the rear control cavity covers on this SE 245.
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#18
Quote by Dysprosium
Nice score. I like the look of that more than the Custom 24 you have there.


When I bought the S2 it was the only one in the shop. I would have picked another color if I had the choice. That S2 is amazing. The SE is great, but the S2 is clearly a better guitar. IMO, it is worth the price increase over the SE.
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#19
Quote by pachap
$396, I think.

I had the same thing that you described happen with an Ibanez AS73 I bought from MF. It was listed as a Level 3, but when it arrive it was obviously brand new. The foam wrapping was untouched, and the plastic was still on the pups. For that matter, the plastic is still on the rear control cavity covers on this SE 245.


yep that is a new guitar IMO

You should have got a used CE22/24 same as the real Custom 22/24 but they have a bolt thru maple neck. I have one I bought in 2004 and it is never getting sold
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#20
Quote by pachap
When I bought the S2 it was the only one in the shop. I would have picked another color if I had the choice. That S2 is amazing. The SE is great, but the S2 is clearly a better guitar. IMO, it is worth the price increase over the SE.

I hear that. I just love the finish on the SE and am kinda partial to singlecuts(although I don't currently own one).
#21
Quote by Dysprosium
I hear that. I just love the finish on the SE and am kinda partial to singlecuts(although I don't currently own one).


I like single cuts too, hence the purchase on the 245.

I am leaving it with my tech tomorrow morning. After playing it some more last night, it definitely needs the GFS pups. The stocks are doing anything for me.

It's getting vintage wiring, 1 tone, 1 volume, bass contour, and treble bleed.

While it plays pretty good and feels comfortable, the set up on this guitar sucks. I think what happened is that somebody ordered it from MF, tried to do his own setup without knowing crap about a guitar, got frustrated with how it played after he FUBAR'd it, then sent it back.

It's going to be a great guitar. Everything can be sorted out with it, and I am happy with price on it. But this thing is nowhere in the same league with my S2 Cu24. My S2 is a special piece of sonic goodness.
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#22
Got it back from my tech earlier today and been playing it ever since. He set it up, sorted out the nut, new pups, and vintage wire.

The pups are the hot-wound GFS Pro Series. They sound really good and, since they are chrome / nickel, they look so much better than the zebra cream pups and rings that was on it. They sound much better than the stock ones IMO. They have some bite and grittiness to them. I'll try to get a sound clip later of them pushing my Classic 50 with it cranked up.

It's wired for 1 tone, 1 volume, bass contour, and one dummy knob. Also has a treble bleed. If you don't have a bass contour control you should try it because it really enhances the tonal versatility.

The new tuners are the GFS Sperzel style. In all honesty I just put them on there because I wanted some black hardware.

Overall, it plays and sounds so much better than it did when I got it.



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#23
Did you get it converted to 10-46 gauge strings? The stock 9-42s sound less impressive IMO.
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#24
Quote by KenG
Did you get it converted to 10-46 gauge strings? The stock 9-42s sound less impressive IMO.


Yeah it has 10 to 46 on it.
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#25
My SE Custom also came with loose tuners. On top of that, the input jack was loose, there was a big stain of laquer on the fretboard, and sharp fret-ends.

With that stuff sorted out, it plays reasonably well, but I will never understand the praise these guitars get. On par with Epiphone Standard-series, but not better.
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#26
Quote by HomerSGR
My SE Custom also came with loose tuners. On top of that, the input jack was loose, there was a big stain of laquer on the fretboard, and sharp fret-ends.

With that stuff sorted out, it plays reasonably well, but I will never understand the praise these guitars get. On par with Epiphone Standard-series, but not better.


I agree that I think they are a bit over-hyped, but past experience places them higher than Epi's in my opinion.

What really kills me is the people who claim the S2 series isn't a real upgrade over the SEs. I have both, and can say that it easily is.
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#27
I wish I could justify buying a new guitar! Cant quite bring myself to yet though - would be a complete waste. I need to start playing 8 hours a day again to think of it.

Aching for one after checking out your thread. ****.


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