#1
Hey all,

Good patch cables: GO!
In the UK are pricey, George L's, Mogami etc, and i'm finding it hard to track down the build-your-own cable kits you get stateside. So what is the best option in the UK?

I am a big fan of 'Kabl' for my guitar cables, but they stand at £40 for 5, pretty short cables.

Should i go the DIY route?
I do like my pedals, and in order to link them all up cleanly i would need an assortment of sizes (particularly to cater to my huuuge Vox Delaylab).
Where can i source good quality parts in the UK?
And how do i know if they'll do a good job?
#2
Where I would need an assortment of lengths, I would just buy a good length of George L cable and then angled and straight plugs, depending on what I need. For my pedalboard that has now lost the phaser, I got 2 meters of George L (I will need it for future purchases) then I bought a few angled and few straight plugs, again, can't have too many of them, it's not like they're going to get bad if you place them in a good place. That was just for pedalboard, not from pedals to amp or from guitar to pedals. Now that can be a bit pricey, but I think it's worth it, especially when I didn't have to go for a solder (don't have a need for one yet TBH).
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#3
No way in hell good quality cables are gonna cost you less if you buy them already made unless you buy them a couple thousands a time.

I personally like myself Switchcraft's 228s for going from pedal to pedal, though the 226s seem more appreciated and more popular and stuff because of the 228s' odd shape.

Anyway pretty much any switchcraft or neutrik angled (or even straight if you fancy them) mono plugs would do, no need to go for the gold plated shiny stuff.

As for the cable, any good quality - whatever gauge - nicely insulated - cable with one (two would be better imo, you never know when you'll need to make stereo cables) stranded wire core will do.
Get something like 30 meters of that plus some jacks and you'll be done for life.

This is the first thing I could find that would suit you, but again, whatever cable which satisfies the above conditions will do just fine.
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/multicore-microphone-instrument-cable/2525551/

Also **** kits, half of them don't even need soldering which in my opinion lowers the reliability (not much but you never know...), and all of them are overpriced.

Grab a soldering iron and make your own cables like a real man would do
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#4
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Also **** kits, half of them don't even need soldering which in my opinion lowers the reliability (not much but you never know...), and all of them are overpriced.

Grab a soldering iron and make your own cables like a real man would do


Haven't had any problems with my cables so far, I find them as reliable as "normal" ones. Besides, George L plugs stay in really tight, don't see the unreliable factor there.
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#5
Sweet guys, cheers for all the suggestions!
I'm handy with a soldering iron, so have all the intention of building them myself.

The Switchcraft 228's seem crazy expensive in the UK compared to the USA, £6 each, whilst in america they seem to me half that (but i'd have to pay extra on postage, and possible tax) lame.

The switchcraft 226's seem a good bet though!
Is van damme cable good? think that's what they use at 'kabl'

Also found this from my usual component supplier, which looks pretty good, but is it too cheap?:

http://doctortweek.co.uk/shop/article_296/Instrument-%28Guitar%29-Cable---Evolution-OFC-%28per-meter%29.html?sessid=FAEUyJQCxfwKC7CG6WWerUCSbCIh6z2UX2UM8zLRYPRj1taqbsi8ExbQEMHHGk7v&shop_param=cid%3D37%26aid%3D296%26

They also have some angled jacks that look identical to the switchcraft 226's, but for a mere 97p! Too cheap to be good? Stick to the switchcrafts?
The price on those 226's seem to vary a bit, anything from £3-9.
#6
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No way in hell good quality cables are gonna cost you less if you buy them already made unless you buy them a couple thousands a time.

I personally like myself Switchcraft's 228s for going from pedal to pedal, though the 226s seem more appreciated and more popular and stuff because of the 228s' odd shape.

Anyway pretty much any switchcraft or neutrik angled (or even straight if you fancy them) mono plugs would do, no need to go for the gold plated shiny stuff.

As for the cable, any good quality - whatever gauge - nicely insulated - cable with one (two would be better imo, you never know when you'll need to make stereo cables) stranded wire core will do.
Get something like 30 meters of that plus some jacks and you'll be done for life.

This is the first thing I could find that would suit you, but again, whatever cable which satisfies the above conditions will do just fine.
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/multicore-microphone-instrument-cable/2525551/

Also **** kits, half of them don't even need soldering which in my opinion lowers the reliability (not much but you never know...), and all of them are overpriced.

Grab a soldering iron and make your own cables like a real man would do


This.

And I like Mogami W2524 cable.
I don't know where to get it in the UK, so you'll have to search.
Try Amazon maybe?
#7
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The Switchcraft 228's seem crazy expensive in the UK compared to the USA, £6 each, whilst in america they seem to me half that (but i'd have to pay extra on postage, and possible tax) lame.
Fuuuuuck!
By any means stick to the no-name ones, chances are they're the same thing.
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Is van damme cable good? think that's what they use at 'kabl'
Don't know, never heard of them.
The specs and looks of the black series tour grade up-ofc gets me hard though
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Bit more than €1,50 for a meter of 24AWG shielded unbranded decent quality mono cable look just about right to me, though I'd personally get something with bigger wires and two separated conductors inside the shielding, 'cause again, you never know when you'll need stereo cables.

I mean, you can order 50m and pay the shipping one time and be done with it for a couple years years to the rest of your life, depending on how much different and long cable you need.
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They also have some angled jacks that look identical to the switchcraft 226's, but for a mere 97p! Too cheap to be good? Stick to the switchcrafts?
The price on those 226's seem to vary a bit, anything from £3-9.
If they look the same, chances are they actually are the same thing without the branding.
Same materials, same place, same factory, different distribution.

I'd get a handful of them, and another couple handfuls if they work fine.
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Is van damme cable good? think that's what they use at 'kabl'


yeah, it's at least decent. like most cable manufacturers they have different qualities of cable at different prices, though, i think. so you need to be comparing like with like.
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#11
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Fuuuuuck!
By any means stick to the no-name ones, chances are they're the same thing.
Don't know, never heard of them
.

The specs and looks of the black series tour grade up-ofc gets me hard though
Bit more than €1,50 for a meter of 24AWG shielded unbranded decent quality mono cable look just about right to me, though I'd personally get something with bigger wires and two separated conductors inside the shielding, 'cause again, you never know when you'll need stereo cables.

I mean, you can order 50m and pay the shipping one time and be done with it for a couple years years to the rest of your life, depending on how much different and long cable you need.
If they look the same, chances are they actually are the same thing without the branding.
Same materials, same place, same factory, different distribution.

I'd get a handful of them, and another couple handfuls if they work fine.


I used bunch of pancake jacks from Radioshack for my pedalboard patch cables and they been fine so far.
#12
Hey guys, sorry i've been out the loop, thanks for all your help!
You've made my mind up to do the DIY thang!

A place i was planning on getting a Muff kit from soon, BitsBox (a Rams Head clone if you're interested), has some Pancake Jacks for a really good price: Just 84p.

edit (link): http://www.bitsbox.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=225_226_294&products_id=1564

Would you stand by your 'go for the no-name brands' advice? Or at that price do you suspect cheap crap?
Should i keep to the cheapo-no-name 226 style?
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