#1
I think im gonna need a lightweight amp head in the future.

I currently have a Marshall DSL which I dont mind lugging to the occasional gig but every week for band practice is too much. Assming the practice space already has a cab, a lightweight amp head would be much more practical.

Im keeping the DSL for gigs but i need something smaller and lighter for week in week out practice cos the DSL is totes heavy.

Genre: Versatile but generally rock. Think Pulled Apart By Horses, Hawkeyes, Blacklisters etc. No br00tz.

Current Gear: Gibson SG Spesh, couple of dirt pedals, delay and reverb (FX loop therefore required cos i want the dirt from my amp)

Location: Leeds UK

Budget: Pfffff......um.....up to £300? More than happy to go used.

Ive been looking at Hayden Mofo 15w (no fx loop tho), Orange OR15 and H&K Tubemeister 18.

Please no Tiny Terror suggestions, ive used one and i really didnt like it

So what does anyone suggest?
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#2
If you're getting your dirt from pedals, a Quilter Tone Block 200 might be the perfect tool for the job.
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#3
^ but will it sound good?

Anyway, a lightweight head with an fx loop and dirt...
The JCA22H is £198 from thomann.de, it has an fx loop (though it's line level so find a list of pedals that work with it and see if yours are there).

Also the Blackheart BH15, though I'm not sure it has an fx loop.
You can find one of them used for €180 and a bit less around here, so you should have no problems with that either.

If you like the OR15 it's amazing, buy one.
Though I personally don't like it and I wouldn't buy one.

The tubemeister 18 is said to have very cool blue lights and stuff!
Though the sound isn't by any means highly regarded.
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#4
Interesting you have a DSL but did not like a TT. I thought they sounded pretty close when dialed in. Maybe a Laney Cub head? It's not lunchbox sized but tonally sounds pretty good and probably less than 1/2 the weight of a DSL. Worth a look.
http://www.amazon.com/Laney-Amps-CUB-HEAD-15-Watt-Amplifier/dp/B003USFXPG

Any used Mesa would get you there but they are pretty rare in the UK and probably still above your price point.
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#5
That Laney looks pretty good, never seen them before. Good price too! Have you played one yourself?

Yeah, less than half the weight of a DSL.

I dont know what it was about the TT, i just didnt take to it. I admit, i didnt spend as long with it as i probably should have. Would prefer more EQ options rather than just a "tone" knob too
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That Laney looks pretty good, never seen them before. Good price too! Have you played one yourself?

Yeah, less than half the weight of a DSL.

I dont know what it was about the TT, i just didnt take to it. I admit, i didnt spend as long with it as i probably should have. Would prefer more EQ options rather than just a "tone" knob too


I have not played through the Cub but I jammed with a guy who had one. Definitely has good tone with the characteristic British bite. I don't remember if he was using an OD pedal or just had it turned up all the way but he could get it pretty heavy. Good player too. Find one and spend some time with it. Here is a Laney Demo to get the idea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO8MreEzXMM
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#8
assuming it's light enough i'm guessing the jet city spambot mentioned will be hard to beat for the money.
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#9
Jet City JCA22h
www.thomann.de/gb/jet_city_amplification_jca22h_guitar_head.htm?sid=8593f48e65aed7dee21c64c5273347f9

these little amps are beasts and will surprise you with how loud they can get
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assuming it's light enough i'm guessing the jet city spambot mentioned will be hard to beat for the money.
The only smaller all tube amps I can think of are the orange terrors.
If he rules them out, I don't think he's gonna find tube amps weighting less than 10kg.
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#11
my little valvepower marshall 18 watt clone is pretty light, but i'm guessing it's not aimed at the tones he's after (also no loop). there are a fair few lunchbox amps out currently (I haven't checked the weight, though) but his budget kind of narrows the options down...

but yeah if the jet city you mentioned is similar to the 50, that's gonna be hard to beat. and 10kg too... not exactly super-light but not that heavy, either, even for me
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#13
The Krank 1980 Jr is a great HR Marshall JCM800 type amp, but they are pretty rare here in the states, so I imagine they are even more scarce in the UK

I also just tried a Diamond Assassin and it was a cool marshallish type amp but it only had 1 channel. I think it will be the next small head I buy
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#14
^ Yeah I don't think krank even had any UK distribution or delaers when the 1980 Jr was released. Thomann stocked Krank for a while but I never saw they had any 1980 Jrs in stock, either.

Not saying it's definitely impossible to find one or anything like that, you never know- someone might have imported one or whatever. But I'm guessing they're going to be rare, at very least. And if someone did go to that bother there's a fair chance they're going to hang onto it if they can at all
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^ Yeah I don't think krank even had any UK distribution or delaers when the 1980 Jr was released. Thomann stocked Krank for a while but I never saw they had any 1980 Jrs in stock, either.

Not saying it's definitely impossible to find one or anything like that, you never know- someone might have imported one or whatever. But I'm guessing they're going to be rare, at very least. And if someone did go to that bother there's a fair chance they're going to hang onto it if they can at all


Yeah, I don't plan on selling mine. I had been looking for one (used) almost a year and I saw mine for $300 with no picture and I jumped on it. I deff have to use a boost to get what I like out of it, sometimes I stack 2. I want to get a MXR 10 band EQ, but you know the saying "want in one hand and shit in the other, see which fills up first"
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yeah at one point i was waiting to see if thomann got any in stock- if they had got them in at the same price as they had the rev jr for I might have half-considered it. But they didn't, they dropped their krank dealership before they got any in.
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#17
Check out the new Peavey ValveKing II 20W head. Not sure what it goes for over there, and doubt you'll find a used one already.
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#18
Check out the Orange Jim Root amp.

I have the tubemeister 5 and have played the other models and they all have VERY harsh treble to my ears. Decent Cleans, Decent Dirt but neither are THAT great imho.
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^ but will it sound good?

Yes. I tried one a couple days ago and it's surprisingly good.
I may end up buying one for myself as a gig backup; if my Ampeg for some reason fails mid-gig (knock on wood) I just plug the Tone Block to the Ampeg's speaker and get on with the show.
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#20
Hmm, that new valveking looks pretty cool

Only about 7kg too!

Anything that's less than the dsl. When it's in the hard case it's probably pushing 30kg! Anything less than 12kg is fine

Been looking at the Laney Ironheart 15w head. There are actually tonnes of great 15w-20w heads around aren't there! Not sure if the Ironheart might be a bit MeTuLz though....
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