#1
So I am thinking about buying the Randall RX120RH and RX412 Half Stack Amp, I know it would give me a metal sound but I wanted to play some Korn songs on it and I am not sure if it would give me a guitar sound like them. Anybody know about this? I would also want to know if It would be a good amp for bass too. If you guys don't think this would be a very good amp then give me a suggestion. My budget is $600. Thanks.
#2
1st, you can use a guitar through a bass amp, but you CANNOT use a bass through a guitar amp.
If you want a multi-instrument amplifier, look into the Peavey Vypyr VIP series -- they can be used for electric guitar, acoustic guitar, and bass.


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#3
You want an amp that can do metal and bass, get a Peavey Vypyr VIP they are guitar, bass and acoustic amps all in one package

You can run a bass into a regular guitar amp, it is the guitar speakers that have an issue with handling the lows.
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#4
Budget- $600 max (I can go to 700 or 800 if it's really worth it)
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#5
I've seen Mesa Rectoverbs and Tremoverbs pop up in the 600-800 range on Craigslist. Seems to be popular with the nu metal crowd. The Mesa DC amps can get pretty damn heavy too. Last I checked they are around 450-600.

Jim Root has been known to use an Orange Rockerverb at some points. You can pick up a used 112 rocker for around 800.

I've got a DSL but I'm not sure if that would be heavy enough for you. Trivium and Metallica used them for a little while. Trivium might actually still do. Not very sure. It could be worth looking into if you are on a budget. There is a DSL100 for sale near me right now for 450. And a JCM900 1960 cab for 300.

A Peavey 6505+ combo is around 400 used. A head cab setup might be out of your budget.

Im sure others can chime in on other amps. These are the only ones I'm familiar with. For bass you'll need a bass amp.
Last edited by cheesefries at Jun 8, 2014,
#7
If you can find a used Marshall MF400 cab (they are really cheap used) it has K100 speakers which can handle bass just fine. They run $300-$350. then look For a Marshall JCM2000 TSL100/60.
If your gonna play bass by yourself, the 60 will be fine and plenty loud when playing guitar. If you need to use bass in a band setting, get the 100 for the extra headroom and even then your really pushing it
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#8
Does anyone know an amp that could do a perfect korn sound for guitar only? Mesa boogie is very good for it but very expensive so if anyone knows any please tell me.
#9
Marshall JCM2000 TSL60/100
works great for nu-metal
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#12
Quote by Diogometalhead
The jcm 2000 sounds great! What about for a cab though?

I already posted, but the Marshall MF400
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#13
Korn also uses 7 string guitars if you really want to get there sound. This might be a ug first but what you need might be a new guitar.
#14
Good news! My max budget is now $1000! I'm thinking about the marshall but if anyone knows any better for that korn guitar sound please tell me!
#15
Quote by mhanbury2
Korn also uses 7 string guitars if you really want to get there sound. This might be a ug first but what you need might be a new guitar.

I have the ibanez komrad20...it's head's signature series 7 string...pretty sure I don't need another guitar for korn's sound
#16
Well, obviously, a Recto.
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#17
Quote by Diogometalhead
Good news! My max budget is now $1000! I'm thinking about the marshall but if anyone knows any better for that korn guitar sound please tell me!

For your budget it will be hard , but how about this
$749 Mesa Single recto
www.guitarcenter.com/Mesa-Boogie-Used--Mesa-Boogie--Single-Rectifier-50W---Tube-Guitar-Amp-Head-110203727-i3777685.gc
and this Marshall 1960 for $299
www.guitarcenter.com/Marshall-Used-Marshall-1960A-300W-4X12-Stereo-Slant-Guitar-Cabinet-110224866-i3787160.gc

It is $50 over your budget but it will be a pro level set-up
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#18
Quote by cheesefries
I've seen Mesa Rectoverbs and Tremoverbs pop up in the 600-800 range on Craigslist. Seems to be popular with the nu metal crowd. The Mesa DC amps can get pretty damn heavy too. Last I checked they are around 450-600.

Jim Root has been known to use an Orange Rockerverb at some points. You can pick up a used 112 rocker for around 800.

I've got a DSL but I'm not sure if that would be heavy enough for you. Trivium and Metallica used them for a little while. Trivium might actually still do. Not very sure. It could be worth looking into if you are on a budget. There is a DSL100 for sale near me right now for 450. And a JCM900 1960 cab for 300.

A Peavey 6505+ combo is around 400 used. A head cab setup might be out of your budget.

Im sure others can chime in on other amps. These are the only ones I'm familiar with. For bass you'll need a bass amp.


i think i paid a tad under $700 for my tremoverb.
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#19
Quote by trashedlostfdup
i think i paid a tad under $700 for my tremoverb.


They are sweet amps for sure! My first experience with a Mesa was near front row at a Soundgarden concert. Forgot the guitarists name (not Cornell) but he had 2 tremoverbs on stage. It was a glorious wall of noise.
Last edited by cheesefries at Jun 8, 2014,
#20
Quote by cheesefries
They are sweet amps for sure! My first experience with a Mesa was near front row at a Soundgarden concert. Forgot the guitarists name (not Cornell) but he had 2 tremoverbs on stage. It was a glorious wall of noise.

Kim Thayil, and yeah he is a bad ass

And just so you know, the Orange rocker is not anything like the rockerverb, the rocker is a classic-rock type gain.
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#21
Hey guys sorry for so many questions but what do you think is better for my style? The mesa boogie single rectifier 50watts or the Marshall JCM 900 SL-X 100 watts?
I am getting a Marshall 1960A 300W with one of those.
#22
Try them both out, I like the 900 SLX though.
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#23
For what you want the Recto is probably better. The SL-X is awesome, but it doesn't have the giant lowend you want for Nu-metal.
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#24
Quote by Diogometalhead
So I am thinking about buying the Randall RX120RH and RX412 Half Stack Amp, I know it would give me a metal sound but I wanted to play some Korn songs on it and I am not sure if it would give me a guitar sound like them. Anybody know about this? I would also want to know if It would be a good amp for bass too. If you guys don't think this would be a very good amp then give me a suggestion. My budget is $600. Thanks.


they used H&K which is really expensive stuff. the Randall will probably suffice though.

it'd probably sound OK as a bass amp, but the EQ is not set for tweaking a bass sound. also the cab is probably not adequate for bass, you can cause damage to guitar speakers using them for bass, the long throw of the bass strings can cause over excursion of the speaker cone. mind you guitar speakers usually don't have a voice coil that extends beyond the voice coil gap but there is still plenty of concern about damaging the suspension (especially at louder volumes). at the ver least it doesn't sound good.

i have heard speakers like a EVM-12L or G12K-100 can pull double duty for acting as either a guitar or bass speaker.

bottomline, you are going to have to spend some fairly serious money to either get a setup like Korn or a cab/amp setup that can play guitar and bass. the Randall will probably work fine for playing some 7 string korn though.
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#25
Well even better news! My final decision is made! Getting the Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier 100W and the Marshall 1960A 300W cab.
#26
Quote by Diogometalhead
Well even better news! My final decision is made! Getting the Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier 100W and the Marshall 1960A 300W cab.

You'll be good to go then

Now just wait until you hate korn and all the lowend and your set-up will still work just fine
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#27
Quote by Diogometalhead
Well even better news! My final decision is made! Getting the Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier 100W and the Marshall 1960A 300W cab.


Sweet
Hard to go wrong with a Rec, that'll do you nicely.
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#28
Quote by Diogometalhead
Well even better news! My final decision is made! Getting the Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier 100W and the Marshall 1960A 300W cab.



Prepare to melt faces.
#29
As much as I love the SL/X, I think you made the right decision. It's more suited to what you are doing.
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