#1
Hi friends!
Need some help

I have 5-watt Class A head (1x12AX7/1x6l6) - champ based, made by my friend. The overdrive sound will be formed by two pedals: ProCo Rat 2 and AMT Vt2 (hi-gain preamp). I play a different kind of music: from blues/jazz to heavy metal. The cab will be 1x12 open back, and I need to choose the speaker among the next available:

- Celestion G12M Greenback (25W)
- Jensen C12 K2 (100W)
- Eminence Legend V12 (120W)
- Celestion Seventy 80 (80W)
- Celestion Vintage 30 (60W)

It will be used mostly at home on the low volume.
In the future I planning to buy a head, most likely it will be Orange OR15/Egnater Tweaker 15/Laney IRT-Studio, or something like that — not more than 25 watts
Last edited by Libertarian at Jun 12, 2014,
#2
Celestion V30 or the Eminence V12 id probs go for.
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#3
G12H30 Heritage. If you think you might want to go hi gain metal, close the back for that tight bottom.
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Last edited by Cajundaddy at Jun 12, 2014,
#4
Champs sound great through greenbacks. Good for Sabbath like metal, not so much for modern Cookie Monster shit. Magnificent for blues.

Of the ones you listed, delete the seventy 80. They are the worst thing Celestion has ever made.
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#5
I would vote for the greenback as well
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#6
I agree with cath- the 70/80 isn't as good as the others.

What type of tone do you want? Do you want to accentuate the fendery-ness of your amp, or do you want to make it more suitable for other stuff as well? Are those the only speaker options you have? (sounds like it but just to make sure... if i had a free choice i'd probably consider other options)
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What type of tone do you want? Do you want to accentuate the fendery-ness of your amp, or do you want to make it more suitable for other stuff as well? Are those the only speaker options you have? (sounds like it but just to make sure... if i had a free choice i'd probably consider other options)


+1

if you want a more classic rock tone then go for a G12M-25

if you want a more old school tone that still does classic rock well then go for the jenson.

i head the eminence V12 is a good all around speaker, but so is the Texas Heat and i have actually heard a bit more praise for the texas heat.

if you want a more modern tone, go for the V30. if you like/listen to modern music then there is a good chance that is the speaker they are using.
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#8
I was actually thinking the texas heat would be a good call to still sound fairly fendery, but be capable of heavier stuff as well.

the v12 sort of sounds like a mellower v30 to my ears.
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#9
Thanks for the answers.
Suddenly I found the used all-tube combo BMT Minilux III (made in Ukraine) powered by Eminence Legend V12 for $220, the difference in price between the new cab with the same speaker is very small, so, I decided to buy it.
Thank you again.
#10
nice

have you got it yet? let us know what it's like when you do
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nice

have you got it yet? let us know what it's like when you do

Not yet. Ok, I'll try to make some samples and review. I hope you will be able to read it because my English is not perfect
Last edited by Libertarian at Jun 16, 2014,
#12
My personal favorites are:

Well-broken-in Vintage30
Eminence Texas Heat
Eminence Tonker

Avatar will sell you a Hellatone 60, which is a broken-in Vintage30 (they have a method) with a brand sticker on the back. Same price or less than a standard V30.
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My personal favorites are:

Well-broken-in Vintage30
Eminence Texas Heat
Eminence Tonker

Avatar will sell you a Hellatone 60, which is a broken-in Vintage30 (they have a method) with a brand sticker on the back. Same price or less than a standard V30.

Nice, but unfortunately the shipment to Russia will be too expensive
I can buy the cab with V30 here for $200, but I found an interesting used all-tube combo with Eminence V12 for $220... Even if it sounds not good, I will be able to use it like a cabinet or sell it. I think I need to try it. Thank you for info about the Hellatone 60, maybe I will have a chance to test it in the future.
#14
Make a headshell for the new combo and turn it into a head. Stick the V12's into their own cab. Then you can mix and match.
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