#1
Hello.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlugVimGuPY

Notice the sound at 0:50. Anybody knows how this sound is achieved?

By the way, this is an incomprehensive list of equipment the guitarist has been known to use:


http://www.uberproaudio.com/who-plays-what/213-my-chemical-romance-ray-toro-guitar-gear-rig-and-equipment

This is also a screenshot of his pedalboard from the same show

Last edited by Kruggy at Jun 20, 2014,
#2
I can't tell you how HE did it- YouTube won't let me play the video on my iPad- but back in the '80s, Steve Stevens held actual toy rayguns near his pickups to make that kind of sound when he recorded "Rebel Yell" with Billy Idol, also doing so while playing live. (Which is why his signature Rebel Yell HBs from BareKnuckle are available with a raygun-etched cover.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQPxVNYwRnQ&sns=em

He later had some guitars modified to generate that sound in particular. In Premiere Guitar's Rig Rundown, I believe he mentions another way of doing it. The video is longish, though.

www.premierguitar.com/articles/19538-rig-rundown---billy-idols-steve-stevens

Frank Hannon, Tesla's guitarist, used a theremin in "Edison's Medicine". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2zwBRa0YhA&sns=em

There is also the long discontinued HiWatt EchoTheremin pedal that could help.

FWIW, nearly anything with a small motor and/or transmitter in it- power hand tools, cordless/cell/smart phones, TV remotes- will generate enough of an energy field to interact with your pickups in an interesting fashion.
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Quote by dannyalcatraz
FWIW, nearly anything with a small motor and/or transmitter in it- power hand tools, cordless/cell/smart phones, TV remotes- will generate enough of an energy field to interact with your pickups in an interesting fashion.

+1 That was fun when I discovered this.
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#4
Then there's toys like Korg's Kaosp Pads and Kaossilator, guitar synth controllers, etc.

IOW, there's probably more than one way to do it. Read a little, and you'll find some of the guys trying to copy steven's solo did so with aggressive whammy work.
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Quote by dannyalcatraz
FWIW, nearly anything with a small motor and/or transmitter in it- power hand tools, cordless/cell/smart phones, TV remotes- will generate enough of an energy field to interact with your pickups in an interesting fashion.


I immediately thought of the intro to Van Halen's "Poundcake" when you mentioned this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5rZV4C7lIw
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#6
Quote by dannyalcatraz
I can't tell you how HE did it- YouTube won't let me play the video on my iPad- but back in the '80s, Steve Stevens held actual toy rayguns near his pickups to make that kind of sound when he recorded "Rebel Yell" with Billy Idol, also doing so while playing live. (Which is why his signature Rebel Yell HBs from BareKnuckle are available with a raygun-etched cover.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQPxVNYwRnQ&sns=em

He later had some guitars modified to generate that sound in particular. In Premiere Guitar's Rig Rundown, I believe he mentions another way of doing it. The video is longish, though.

www.premierguitar.com/articles/19538-rig-rundown---billy-idols-steve-stevens

Frank Hannon, Tesla's guitarist, used a theremin in "Edison's Medicine". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2zwBRa0YhA&sns=em

There is also the long discontinued HiWatt EchoTheremin pedal that could help.

FWIW, nearly anything with a small motor and/or transmitter in it- power hand tools, cordless/cell/smart phones, TV remotes- will generate enough of an energy field to interact with your pickups in an interesting fashion.


Very interesting--the things you mentioned were completely alien to me (especially that factoid--never crossed my mind haha). I've looked through the information, and those methods achieve a raygun sound quite well, but perhaps I exaggerated my description of the sound I'm referring to. The sound is only heavily pronounced in the first 3 seconds--he was standing close to his pedalboard so perhaps he expressed a whammy or some such. Or maybe it's the fact that distortion was used. Perhaps if you watch the video later on you'll have a better idea of what I'm talking about. In any case, I will definitely give that stuff a try.

Thanks heaps mate.
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Also, there ARE pedals- ring modulators and other noise generators- that are capable of making those kinds of sounds, like The Glamour Box by Skychord (a.k.a. King Capitol Punishment).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE05de2Y04M&sns=em

Or the Pigtronix Mothership
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcE7N6kHFjQ&sns=em

Moog Moogerfooger Ring Modulator:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED4ugecZm0Q&sns=em
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Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Jun 18, 2014,
#9
Are you sure thats Ray doing that?

To me that sort of sounds like some kind of phaser/chorus or simular mod and a fixed wah.

Check out some of the danger days stuff as there's a lot of 'ray gun' like sounds on that.
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Quote by dannyalcatraz
Also, there ARE pedals- ring modulators and other noise generators- that are capable of making those kinds of sounds, like The Glamour Box by Skychord (a.k.a. King Capitol Punishment).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE05de2Y04M&sns=em

Or the Pigtronix Mothership
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcE7N6kHFjQ&sns=em

Moog Moogerfooger Ring Modulator:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED4ugecZm0Q&sns=em



I love you. That stuff is darn expensive but I'll consider experimenting with such equipment. Thanks.
#11
Quote by boblittle
Are you sure thats Ray doing that?

To me that sort of sounds like some kind of phaser/chorus or simular mod and a fixed wah.

Check out some of the danger days stuff as there's a lot of 'ray gun' like sounds on that.


I think so, yes. If you follow Iero's strumming you can clearly notice that the sound is coming from Toro's guitar. But even Iero had a very similar sound throughout the show, just not as pronounced as Ray's was in that first chord.

Yep yep yep, I had a very similar guess initially--but perhaps a flanger instead.

The stuff on Danger Days is more towards synthesizer-imitation side of things and is much easier for me to figure out.
#12
Quote by Kruggy
I love you. That stuff is darn expensive but I'll consider experimenting with such equipment. Thanks.

Yeah, they're most cost effective for those looking to play a bunch of esoteric stuff. But some of those devices- or things much like them- may be findable on the used market. I've seen those Moogs & Pigtronix pedals discounted, for instance.
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#13
Do a search on using a Kaos Pad, Kaossilator,, or mini versions of the same with guitar. They're cheaper than most of those pedals, and are very good at what they do. The downside is they're made primarily for DJs, so are operated by fingertip controls.

Still, they're good enough that some guitarists (like Matt Bellamy)- and subsequently, some companies- that mod their guitars to house them on the lower body, below the bridge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88lFkqZ7MdI&sns=em


You can probably work out a way to attach one to your belt or guitar strap as well, especially one of the minis.
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Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Jun 18, 2014,
#14
Damn...now you've got ME thinking!

I'm a big Steve Stevens fanboi, and have considered buying a second Dean Cadillac* to put some of his signature BKP Rebel Yells into... Now I'm wondering if that body is big enough to house a Kaos pad or mini-KP...




* my first electric was a Time Capsule Dean Cadillac, which I still have. I didn't buy it because of him, though, that was just a happy accident.
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#15
Quote by dannyalcatraz
Do a search on using a Kaos Pad, Kaossilator,, or mini versions of the same with guitar. They're cheaper than most of those pedals, and are very good at what they do. The downside is they're made primarily for DJs, so are operated by fingertip controls.

Still, they're good enough that some guitarists (like Matt Bellamy)- and subsequently, some companies- that mod their guitars to house them on the lower body, below the bridge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88lFkqZ7MdI&sns=em


You can probably work out a way to attach one to your belt or guitar strap as well, especially one of the minis.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T63ARmH6GAM


I think this is it.
#16
I prefer the Pigtronix Mothership to that EHX, personally.

OTOH, there is the Rainbow Machine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bwwNKT-FfU&sns=em
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