#1
Long story short, I want to get new pickups for the front 2 single coils of my old Ibanez RG340. Its H-S-S. First off Im ASSUMING regular strat style pickups will fit...if any1 knows different please advise.

So basically I have been playing for a long time and never made tone one of my major priorities. So even though I do love blues and bluesy rock, I basically have never played much on the front 2 pickups because of all the hum when using distortion. So now I want to change that and start working the front pickups more.

That being said, im still trying to get better on guitar and I might like to explore the sort of "shredding on the front pickup" type of Yngwie sound.

So are there some middle and neck pickups that could possibly satisfy both a decent bluesy tone and a more distorted, compressed lead neck tone?

I like the shred tone of the HS4 in the neck but I have heard that the clean tones it gets are very bland.

I like some of the sounds from neck pickups such as pearly gates and custom shop '69 but I am assuming they are true single coils that will get plenty of hum with distortion?

In general most of my playing will be with at least SOME distortion.

Any suggestions? Im assuming a true single coil wont work for me so I guess we are talking single position humbuckers?

I have a carvin 50/100 watt tube amp and a Fender stage 185 solid state amp


Here are some examples of my playing.

this is the intro from a blues song back in like 97. I think I used the bridge in some places but also either neck or 2nd position. It was probably thru an old ART pedal board then thru a 2x12 combo http://members.toast.net/jusjoking/blues_intro.mp3

This is sort of the crunchy rhythm sound I like, with several leads thrown in. I had a strat with single slot humbuckers but I dont have it anymore. I have no clue if this is the strat or Ibanez but I think its the strat. http://members.toast.net/jusjoking/Demo_song_1.mp3

another old demo song with dirty and cleaner tones and some leads http://members.toast.net/jusjoking/Demo_song_2.mp3

BM Aeolian example http://members.toast.net/jusjoking/BM%20Aeolian%20jam%201.mp3

some good sloppy lead work http://members.toast.net/jusjoking/pageish_solo_work.mp3

grooving instrumental http://members.toast.net/jusjoking/Okaneechee%20Springtime.mp3


So those are old examples. Currently my right hand is a little better and I have worked on some single string ascending runs etc. Also my slow blues phrasing/vibrato/bending is pretty strong nowadays.

so with all that in mind, any pickup recommendations? Thanks in advance
#2
How much are you willing to spend? Bareknuckle makes some insane single coil pickups, I have a trilogy suite set in my strat, they are meant for metal, but pull great cleans too.

Maybe a Mothers Milk set for that classic strat sound, or Irish Tour for a hotter, ballsier sound.
#3
I figure $200 ought to cover a neck and middle pickup but I could go a little higher if need be
#4
Yeah, you could afford them, they are about $95 a pop. But you need to check with the output to make sure they don't overpower your bridge pickup. Mixing pickups of different brands and sets is tricky business.

There's some sound clips and specs for the mothers milk here: https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/pickups.php?cat=strats&sub=vintage&pickup=mothers_milk

And the Irish Tour here: https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/pickups.php?cat=strats&sub=vintage_hot&pickup=irish_tour

They have more, so I'd listen to the clips of all of them and maybe decide what you want. If you do decide to get them, I always get them through guitarasylum if you're in the US.
#5
sort of looking at the YJM Fury now, seems to be pretty decent at clean sounds along with lead tones
#6
i like the dimarzio virtual vintages for what you're talking about (though they have some newer models which I haven't tried, i've tried the older versions, some of which still exist). noiseless, still sound more or less like a strat pickup, but also seem to handle heavier distortion a little better, too.

EDIT: a tubescreamer (or clone/similar) will help with compression etc. for more saturated distorted tones.
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#7
I am looking at dimarzios website and they r showing the output levels. of ALL the single coils, the HS2, HS3, HS4 have the LOWEST output. They are showing between 90-93 whereas all the other pups r higher, for instance Virt Vintage Blues 145, Chopper 260, Tone Zone 300.

IS this low output a basic part of the yngwie/neoclassical tone where u want the attack to be very smooth and more violin like?
#8
yeah i think yngwie uses low/vintage output pickups. that'll definitely affect the overall tone, yeah. I'm not sure if it affects the attack, though. that might just be his playing style.

The VVs I've tried have a bit more but are still low enough to sound "stratty" (to my ears, anyway), but also handle the heavier stuff better. for me, that's the way to go if you sort of want the best of both worlds- bit hotter and more focussed-sounding to handle the heavier stuff better, but not so much it can't do vintage tones, either. Different people will probably disagree, though, since a lot of this is preference.
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IS this low output a basic part of the yngwie/neoclassical tone where u want the attack to be very smooth and more violin like?



Low output is what gives you potential for lows and highs. The higher output pickups compress top and bottom and increase midrange. By using lower output it gives you bigger bass and higher treble which expands your potential. Artists like Yngwie need the top end from lower output pickups. The violin 'like tone' tone is clever use of EQ, compressor, and volume control in combination with pickups that provide the widest possible tonal pallet.
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#10
been looking at many demo vids on utube etc. Pretty much decided on Dimarzio injector neck and area 67 for middle

in any case it'll be a drastic improvement over stock pickups