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#1
In middle school my friends and I called anything even slightly unpleasant or undesirable "gay." We're getting a quiz today? That's gay. Etc. I didn't actively hate gay people but I was ingrained with the mindset that being gay was not a good thing, and therefore okay as an insult. It sounds funny but what changed my perception was watching Will & Grace. It taught me that being gay's not a bad trait, it's neutral.

But I still call things gay sometimes.
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#2
i still call things gay but now its only if they are gay
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#3
I used to do the same thing but I stopped. Not that I thought being gay was wrong. But it's just how everybody talked.
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#4
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#5
I used gay and had a pretty fedora-like view of women. like the 'whoa is me im so nice but they only want assholes' thing. I used to look down only people who spoke in regional dialects or were uneducated without really knowing anything else about them
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I used gay and had a pretty fedora-like view of women. like the 'whoa is me im so nice but they only want assholes' thing.

It's because you're short, if anything.
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#9
i used to think the friendzone was a real thing and then i realized that people who believed in it are generally terrible and i don't even want to be vaguely terrible

initially i was opposed to calling things "gay" when the trend started but it wasn't because i felt that it was perpetuating homophobia, it was because i didn't want to say the word. kinda like how i wouldn't even use the word "crap" conversationally until like fifth grade despite everyone else starting on it a few years prior
#10
OP, I wouldn't call it a view or stance per se, as you and everyone around you were conditioned to associate the word 'gay' with negativity. I'd honestly say that it was an environmental predisposition at that point, stemming from the conformity evident of the group(s) you were a part of.

Don't worry, you're quite normal. It's happened to literally everybody.
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#11
i called things gay and i called people fags when i was in middle school. then i met a gay guy that learned me. i was also a climate change denier in middle school.
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#12
I used to think that transgender people were weird freaks. Then my best friend came out to me as trans.

That'll make you realize how fucked-up what you thought is pretty damn quick.
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#13
Same thing as everyone else: I used to say 'gay' and '******' in middle school despite not harboring any homophobic feelings.

However, I remember one instance in which I once pretended to hate gays via peer pressure (I was twelve). I stopped hanging out with homophobes after that and now I'm not that much of a pushover anyway.

I also used to think that racism in America was 'mostly gone'. Whether that simply made me ignorant or a racist twat I'll leave up to you guys.

Regarding what changed my views: I realised that sometimes words can be more than 'just words'. In addition, my family's reaction to my cousin's 'coming out' and the constant homophobia in that environment made me understand how strong of an issue it is.

My views on racism just started to change as I stopped believing everything my parents told me. It isn't hard to notice it in everyday life. Specific issues made me upset and that awoke me to the broader issue.
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#14
Used to say ******ed a lot in middle school because I didn't really think about what it meant and everyone else said it so casually it didn't even seem like an insult. But it hurts people a lot. Lucky I stopped saying it after a year or two because it was boring, but later I realized how horrible it was
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#15
Will and Grace is a pretty gay show.


I still have socially offensive views, everything is socially offensive to some group, the patriarchy runs 24/7.
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#17
i was extremely homophobic, racist and misogynist in pretty much every way and every other bad thing

just growing up and instead of being a sponge sucking up all the bad shit i realized what was bad and didn't want to be a part of some things

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I still have socially offensive views, everything is socially offensive to some group, the patriarchy runs 24/7.

aren't you really racist?
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#18
Oh yeah I also used to be all "I hate religion the temple is evil don't make me go there you are stupid for going there" with my parents and I'd get so offended whenever my relatives asked me if I believed in god. It's actually really funny looking back on it because later I found out that my grandpa and uncle are atheist and no one in my family gives a shit because they still respect what other people do, which is how I started behaving after a while. Vast improvement from whiny little me (and most of it was because they'd make me go at 7am on a Saturday, not the religion itself)
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#20
I think southpak worded it best. Youth etc when they call something gay or a fag, they don't refer to homosexuals but to something very unpleasant.

People think I am racist as I use stereotypes a lot, but I am not. Like when an Italian walks 20 minutes late in class I would say: typical Italian. And somehow the Chinese kids thought that was racist. When I would say: of course ... Is well prepared, he is Chinese. The Italians said I was racist. Bottom line, almost all people from a nationality do adhere to certain traits that make their culture distinguishable from othercultures. I don't treat anyone differently but I definitely love to point it out.
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#21
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I think southpak worded it best. Youth etc when they call something gay or a fag, they don't refer to homosexuals but to something very unpleasant.

yeah but is associating bad stuff with the word "gay" a good thing for homosexuals? no, its not.
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yeah but is associating bad stuff with the word "gay" a good thing for homosexuals? no, its not.
I don't even associate gay with homosexuals.
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I don't even associate gay with homosexuals.

Yes I know, you implied that. But what you are doing is making "gay" a bad thing.
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Yes I know, you implied that. But what you are doing is making "gay" a bad thing.

I personally don't use it much, I am just saying if someone points out something is gay I wouldn't necessarily get offended or think omg he is talking rubbish about homosexuals. Should the guy think better about using those words ? Sure. But I would hardly think of someone is a bigot or something.

Is it offensive when I call some pink monostrosity at my friends house gay, is that offensive?
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#26
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I personally don't use it much, I am just saying if someone points out something is gay I wouldn't necessarily get offended or think omg he is talking rubbish about homosexuals. Should the guy think better about using those words ? Sure. But I would hardly think of someone is a bigot or something.

Is it offensive when I call some pink monostrosity at my friends house gay, is that offensive?
yeah i dont automagically just assume that a person is a bigot because they said it one time. i get it. but i still feel like its just a bad habit that people should just drop
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#27
I catch myself calling something gay now and then, but it's more just how people I've grown up with talk than any kind of prejudice. I even have a gay friend who calls things gay, so that's kinda weird.
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#29
I used to be pretty homophobic, till my sophomore year in high school

This chick was mad that I rejected her so she told the entire school that I came out to her and that's why i rejected her so for the first time in my life I felt discrimination on a large scale, it was a really eye opening experience
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#30
Everybody here seems to be worrying about the words they use, not the views they hold. That's all political correctness ever addresses.

I never judge anyone on things they can't change - sexuality, race, gender and so on. Anything else is fair game.
#31
My high school was one block away from the city's gay community and another block away from an apartment complex on the other side. The complex had about 10 buildings filled to the brim with immigrants from all parts of Asia.

So homophobia and racism was never something that crossed my mind unless it was a joke and everyone made those kinds of jokes. I'm surprised most of the Muslims and Tamils were okay with having a gay community two blocks away. Of course a lot of them were homophobic. There would sometimes be reports and announcements over the school PA system about slushies being thrown at people. As for racism, people would get into fights and it would be something like a group of Muslims fighting a group of Tamils or some other south asian or middle eastern group of kids.

What topped it off what that these two girls from Alaska moved into town and one of them started dating this half black guy. They broke up later and stayed friends. The girl turned out to be a lesbian.
#33
Have you had socially offensive views?


Yes.

and what changed them?


who says they had to be changed?
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#34
Well, I guess the whole homophobic as a brand-new teen thing.

But by 16, I figured out that noone, straight girls or gay guys fancied me, so it wasn't anything I should bother thinking about.
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#35
Calling things gay

Telling people to get raped after i murked them up on CoD was a bit peak
#36
Ive never had the urge to put my junk in a mans anus or vice versa. Ive also never had the urge to molest little boys. Maybe im the one whos wierd?
#37
I have never had offensive views, only offensive odour.

But I used to joke around about gay people a lot with the people I hung out with when I was younger, but for me it never felt very serious. I later realised that many of those people were in fact quite homophobic, so I stopped joking around because I didn't want to be associated with that.

It took me quite a while to stop calling things gay, but I did it because I didn't want to offend my friend who had come out a few years back. Funny thing is that his boyfriend found it hilarious when I accidentally called something gay and he is now the one who calls everything (including me) '****ing gay'.
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#39
Using AIDS as a buzzword. It hasn't changed.

EDIT: Should clarify though, it's just for a laugh.
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I personally don't use it much, I am just saying if someone points out something is gay I wouldn't necessarily get offended or think omg he is talking rubbish about homosexuals. Should the guy think better about using those words ? Sure. But I would hardly think of someone is a bigot or something.

Is it offensive when I call some pink monostrosity at my friends house gay, is that offensive?

You might not hold homophobic views yourself, but you're not the person with the potential to be affected by using words like "gay" as generic terms for stuff that sucks. Maybe it's true that you wouldn't get offended if you were a gay person. You would probably have dealt with far worse anyway. But you're not really in a position to make judgements about whether gay people should be offended by the use of words like "gay" and such to refer to things people don't like. If something that's a pretty fundamental part of someone's identity is routinely associated - unintentionally/indirectly or otherwise - with negativity, then they have a right to be offended. Kids don't have to realise that they're making the association for it to be terrible for someone to deal with it as a universal term 24/7. Some people, I'm sure, aren't bothered by it, but many certainly are.

Basically, distrust of things that are different is an animal behaviour, and by 16 or so most humans should have grown mature enough to realise that neither homosexuality, race nor gender are reasonable grounds to treat someone differently.
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