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So after selling off all my guitar gear about a year ago (including my beloved Marshall JCM800...*sniff*) I've decided it's time to get back in the game now that I have a house and a spare room to dedicate to gear.

I've been searching amps lately and the ones I'm looking at right now are:
- Randall Diavlo RD50C
- VHT Lead 20
- Krank Rev Jr (used)
- Jet City JCA2212 20w

Keep in mind I will try all of them before I buy (I've tried a Rev Jr before and liked it, haven't given any others a spin yet) - this thread is just me looking for anyone who's owned any of these amps or has extensive experience with them and is willing to drop a few pearls of wisdom.

Notes:

- I play in a pop punk/hardcore band (think A Day To Remember, Escape The Fate, Sleeping With Sirens) but I muck around with all kinds of stuff in my spare time. I.e. I need a versatile amp with a good clean channel/clean headroom that can also play heavier leads. Not deathcore heavy, but gain is nice.

- Read the above, read it again, then ask yourself if I really want a 5150/6505/etc. (The forum really has not changed much since I used to be a regular).

- Gigs are in the future, so it needs to not only have nice cleans but headroom that I can play un-miked gigs (parties, parking lots etc) without much if any breakup.

- I have no objections to used gear, but finding good value used stuff in Sydney is like finding a jacuzzi in the desert. What comes up tends to go very quickly. It's not a great market right now. The used Rev Jr belongs to a friend of a friend who lives 4 hours away.

- My budget is $600AUD max and I would ideally not even spend that. Don't bother suggesting that I save more and wait - my money goes on my kid, my bills, my car or towards a future deposit on a house. This money is really gambling winnings/leftover tax return more than anything.

Cheers in advance
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- Gigs are in the future, so it needs to not only have nice cleans but headroom that I can play un-miked gigs (parties, parking lots etc) without much if any breakup.
You're either gonna need a very small parking lot or a very big power amp and more than one cab.
A couple at least.

Read: to play in a fairly wide open space you need a PA system.

Or, if the place is a small parking lot, a big amp and a couple cabs.

I reckon for
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$600AUD
you're not gonna get either.

Cleans with lotsa headroom and 20w jet city's don't go along well.
Among them I'd get the Krank or the Randall.

I honestly don't think you're gonna get what you look for for that money.
IMO you should save up and get a 6505.
The cleans aren't anything special but it sounds big, it is big and it is fairly cheap, and you look like you might use both things.
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i dunno if the 20 watt jet city will have enough headroom, as spambot says. I haven't tried the others (and have only tried the 50 watt jet city head).
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Why not get another JCM800?
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#5
I definitely needed 100 watts, a coil tap, and a neck pup to get a really good clean sound out of my JCA. While the lead SLAYS, the clean channel is less of a clean channel, and more of a crunchy channel, in my opinion (think of the bold cleans you can get out of a DSL, green channel with the crunch button IN). They aren't entirely Spanky, and it can really break up at gigging volumes, especially with no mics.

As other says, a parking lot will need a PA system. then you can mic it, and send some stuff through the system, provided your system can handle it. We do a lot of private events, parties, and huge "festival in the park " shows, and we use our own PA and stuff. It's an investment, but you can make it back and then some after some time.
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Why not get another JCM800?


Oh man...I would, but like I said, money's a factor. For me to save up for another JCM800 (considering I picked the old one up for $1200 after haggling and that was a total bargain) would take me too long or I'd have to dip into my house deposit fund which I'd really rather not do. Like I said, my new gear money is about 50% tax return and 50% winnings from a good night at the casino a few weeks ago.


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i dunno if the 20 watt jet city will have enough headroom, as spambot says. I haven't tried the others (and have only tried the 50 watt jet city head).


Dave! How are ya you Irish bastard?

Thanks for the advice bro. You're right, I've listened to a few clips and I'm not sold on the Jet City's cleans. I've played the VHT and it's better in that regard. Haven't tried the Randall yet but reviews say it's pretty good at staying clean at high volumes.
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Yeah I wasn't too fussed on the jet city cleans when i got it at first (i have the 50) but I quite like them now. Obviously that's no guarantee that that'll happen to you, though, and if you know cleans are important, then as katsock says it doesn't really have a clean channel, more a crunch (which can clean up, ish, but still) channel combined with a lead channel.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#8
Update: I got very lucky on eBay and found this baby for $600.



I've only played it a couple times so far but I love it. Versatile as hell, sounds surprisingly good clean (way better than a 5150/6505) and the gain is really sweet to my ears. I'd like to get a bit more punch out of it, but I'm learning the EQ is extremely broad so I'm sure I'll find a tone I love (I tend to like very heavy bass/mids and lighter on the treble).
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#10
Nice Rev combo, way better than the Jr series for cleans
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