#1
I am trying to enhance my guitar style and one of the things that's really got me is those fretless slides people like Jaco and Guthrie Govan seem to be able to achieve on fretless instruments. Of course glissando is nothing new but hearing it on a guitar/guitar-related-instrument gives me some hope that I might be able to do some cool stuff with it.

The timbre is pretty nice and I want to test that too, but it's mainly for using sliding in melodies, trying to achieve some extreme legato (Like your skelaton will turn to jelly legato)

Anyone have any suggestions as to what I could buy? I have about £300 to spend, although that may increase slightly

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#2
I'm not aware of anything available for £300. (That's not to say it doesn't exist, as I haven't looked into it that closely.)

Fretless guitars are pretty niche, really. Vigier is the only one I really know of offhand, and you'd have to multiply your budget by at least 5 (and probably more like 7 or 8) to get one of those.

Fretless bass would likely be easier to come by if you're on a budget, though obviously it's a different instrument.

or buying a cheapo guitar and doing a jaco (i.e. ripping out the frets and filling them) might be another way to do it.
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#3
The Vigier Surfreter is @$2500-3500 as I recall (one is on my G.A.S. list), and I know a luthier who might do one for me for under $2000. Most others I know of are pricier, so £300 seems to be a little low unless you D.I.Y.

The one exception I can think of is this Agile, but Agile isn't the best buy outside the USA.
http://www.rondomusic.com/product1052.html

However, if anyone can find you a fretless in the UK on your budget, these guys can:
http://www.unfretted.com/loader.php
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The Vigier Surfreter is @$2500-3500 as I recall (one is on my G.A.S. list), and I know a luthier who might do one for me for under $2000. Most others I know of are pricier, so £300 seems to be a little low unless you D.I.Y.

The one exception I can think of is this Agile, but Agile isn't the best buy outside the USA.
http://www.rondomusic.com/product1052.html

However, if anyone can find you a fretless in the UK on your budget, these guys can:
http://www.unfretted.com/loader.php


This guide on the unfretted webiste you posted looks very heldpful http://www.unfretted.com/loader.php?LINK=/classes/em_defret1 , so I might actually just defret an old guitar I have, see how it is, and then decide if it's worth buying a new guitar to defret it

Edit: Should I use epoxy like the guide suggests, or will something physical like veneer have more sustain?
Last edited by Jamerman at Jul 3, 2014,
#5
I would defer to their suggestions!
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This guide on the unfretted webiste you posted looks very heldpful http://www.unfretted.com/loader.php?LINK=/classes/em_defret1 , so I might actually just defret an old guitar I have, see how it is, and then decide if it's worth buying a new guitar to defret it

Edit: Should I use epoxy like the guide suggests, or will something physical like veneer have more sustain?


The affect of something so small will be absolutely minimal, I really wouldn't worry about it if I were you. I would say though that if you want you can mix in some saw dust with the epoxy so you get light lines where the frets were as a guide you can use while you're getting used to it. That's why Jaco has those lines on his fingerboard.
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#7
Hi, I run the UK based fretless guitar site Unfretted.com and if you look in the luthier's and Link's sections you will find a UK supplier under £300 AFG - Acoustic Fretless Guitars. Not tried one but Si Hayden demonstrates one in a video. Certainly worth a look, any advice or help you need just get in touch.... jeff@unfretted.com