#2
Intro floats about Dm. Other bits float about F#m. Ends on Em. There's chromatic notes all over the place because I doubt they they were thinking about scales when they wrote it.
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Quote by MapOfYourHead
Intro floats about Dm. Other bits float about F#m. Ends on Em. There's chromatic notes all over the place because I doubt they they were thinking about scales when they wrote it.

Yep, I agree. I don't think music theory is that relevant in music like this. The intro is very dissonant.
#4
Oh okay cool. I just wondered because I am writing an essay on punk on how it influenced Nirvana (Nirvana has a lot of pop sensibility but sneaks in some punk aspects too...including some sense of chromaticism sometimes).
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Quote by Elintasokas
Yep, I agree. I don't think music theory is that relevant in music like this. The intro is very dissonant.


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#6
Quote by Elintasokas
Yep, I agree. I don't think music theory is that relevant in music like this. The intro is very dissonant.


I would disagree. Just because music is dissonant doesn't mean you can't use theory to analyze it.
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Quote by GirlGerms
Oh okay cool. I just wondered because I am writing an essay on punk on how it influenced Nirvana (Nirvana has a lot of pop sensibility but sneaks in some punk aspects too...including some sense of chromaticism sometimes).


Chormaticism just is a by-product of punks "I don't know what I'm doing but who cares" attitude. It wasn't a a deliberate choice, they just didn't know any different. Nirvana was basically punk anyway, just a different style of punk, and they got swept up in the punk revolution of the early 90's with all the other surf and skater bands that were gaining a reputation at that time.
#8
Why the intro sounds so dissonant is because the bass and guitar play notes that don't really sound "good" together. I wouldn't put the intro in any key. I would say the verse is i-ii-iv-V in F#m.
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#9
Quote by MaggaraMarine
Why the intro sounds so dissonant is because the bass and guitar play notes that don't really sound "good" together. I wouldn't put the intro in any key. I would say the verse is i-ii-iv-V in F#m.

Yeah, exactly. I was only talking about the intro in my previous post.
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Quote by The4thHorsemen
I would disagree. Just because music is dissonant doesn't mean you can't use theory to analyze it.

I like this because it shows what theory is used for; analysing music. Why you'd want to do that is up to you I guess.
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Chormaticism just is a by-product of punks "I don't know what I'm doing but who cares" attitude. It wasn't a a deliberate choice, they just didn't know any different. Nirvana was basically punk anyway, just a different style of punk, and they got swept up in the punk revolution of the early 90's with all the other surf and skater bands that were gaining a reputation at that time.

I don't think it's a "I don't know what I'm doing but who cares" attitude. I think saying that they had that type of attitude towards it is a bit condescending really. I think they're attitude was more of "let's write something that sounds dissonant". I mean, they weren't thinking "ok, tritones there, some chromatic bits there, why not add in some serialism?!?" but to think that they just thought 'who cares' is a bit judgemental.

I mean I know the punk attitude was 'who cares', but I don't think that necessarily was the thought process they had whilst writing music. If you know what I'm saying?
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