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#1
I have a tube amp and i wanted a boss metalzone pedal, adding this pedal will my amp still have the tube like feel?
#2
What amp do you have?

Why do you want the Metalzone? What tone are you trying to get?
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#4
if you want to retain the "tube like" feel, you'll probably prefer an overdrive pedal. the metalzone is a bit harsh sounding. thats not a bad thing of course, it has its uses.
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#5
The metal zone doesn't sound good. I have one and after years and years, I've not been able to get somewhat decent yet disappointing tones out of it.
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#6
i only liked my metal zone when i was playing through a little Roland Cube 15. once i upgraded my amp, the pedal didn't add anything good to the sound anymore.
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#7
The metalzone is my least favorite distortion pedal after owning countless over the years. That and the Ds-1. But they each have their uses.
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Can't say I've ever heard a MetalZone sound good, regardless of being the main source of dirt or a boost. It's instant bees-in-a-can no matter what you're running it through.
#10
I wouldn't waste the money on the metal zone. I owned one, used it all throughout my early days of playing. I didn't realize how bad it was until I bought an overdrive pedal. If you are just going for a heavier sound, and the distortion on your amp isn't enough for you, I would go with an overdrive pedal to push the amp's distortion. Buying a Keeley ts-9 was the best purchase I ever made.
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#11
which amp do you have?
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#13
grab a bad monkey on the cheap and try to boost it. but it doesnt seem like it would be greta for high gain tones.
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#14
I do have a tube screamer on the way, plus im getting a 10 band, i do need to do some tone shaping
#15
ohh okay.
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#16
I have one and I really like it. I guess those who say that's a bad pedal didn't find the right set up or they were looking for a different sound. I mostly play metalcore and it fits really well. I also have a friend that plays guitar in a folk metal band and uses a Metalzone for his gigs, he's also very satisfied.
#17
are your ears broken?
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be respectful of other's tastes, this pedal has it uses like i said earlier.
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#20
Hardwire TL-2>Metal Zone. Same design, but the TL-2 sounds less digital. It's also cheaper.
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#21
the last 'tolerable' boss Distortion pedal IMO was the HM-2. i have one, but it still doesn't get that much, unless i feel like play stoner metal.

but the metal zone isn't that great. it may sound good to you if you are a newer player your ear will develop your sense of tone, and i have a feeling after a while you will realize how bad they area. happens to most players.
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#22
Some people use the metalzone as a boost as an actual distortion its ironicly terrible for metal. If you want a dirt pedal on the relitive cheap for metal run a freaking turbo rat or a mooer black secret.
also what amp are you using ts you might be served better with an od or eq pedal.
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Some people use the metalzone as a boost as an actual distortion its ironicly terrible for metal. If you want a dirt pedal on the relitive cheap for metal run a freaking turbo rat or a mooer black secret.
also what amp are you using ts you might be served better with an od or eq pedal.


+1 on rat
+1 on EQ.

i have tried to boost with an HM-2 and i still don't like what i get (as a boost). i would tend to think that the MZ wouldn't do any better.

but everybody has opinions and different ears. YMMV
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the last 'tolerable' boss Distortion pedal IMO was the HM-2. i have one, but it still doesn't get that much, unless i feel like play stoner metal.

but the metal zone isn't that great. it may sound good to you if you are a newer player your ear will develop your sense of tone, and i have a feeling after a while you will realize how bad they area. happens to most players.

I've never thought about it but Boss does have some pretty horrible distortion pedals, imo. But they build pedals so well, its a shame they don't have a better r&d team. Most of their newer single fx pedals are pretty bland.
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#25
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I've never thought about it but Boss does have some pretty horrible distortion pedals, imo. But they build pedals so well, its a shame they don't have a better r&d team. Most of their newer single fx pedals are pretty bland.


They just brought back the dm-2 so boss is starting to get it, the terra echo was an ok attempt to cash in on the ambient crowd but they failed to realize the modulation sounds awful
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I've never thought about it but Boss does have some pretty horrible distortion pedals, imo. But they build pedals so well, its a shame they don't have a better r&d team. Most of their newer single fx pedals are pretty bland.


there are very few (if any) boss pedals made in the last decade i would use. two decades? maybe, i forget what years differet things changed. but the 80's MIJ ones can be great. especially some of the modulation effects. and really the HM2 is stomachable, HM3's were a little falloff but not terrible.

nothing like the metal core, metalzone, etc.

digitech is winning the race IMO (in the same category). most of the hardwire pedals are pretty decent, i haven't played with all of them though. and even the bad monkey, how can boss not make an OD based on TS's for dirt cheap?



IMO if budget pedal shopping look at voodoo lab.
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I do have a tube screamer on the way, plus im getting a 10 band, i do need to do some tone shaping


if you can thole i'd wait until you get them, in case they do what you want.
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#29
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Boss pedals are kind of obnoxious. . . get something better.


This. Boss distortions are outdated technology. They all sound like fuzz boxes trying to be tube distortion and failing hard.

Boss isn't the only pedal company out there.
Wampler Triple Wreck, Hardwire TL-2, Metal Muff. They're all better than a freaking metalzone.

The only pedals that are distortion from boss I can honestly say are ok is the power stack, and maybe the metalcore pedal, but even the later is poor compared to the other pedals I've mentioned.
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#30
I stand by my previous turbo rat recomendation. Assuming you have a good clean, if not buy a freakijg tubescreamer, there is zero point in running a distortion into a bad clean channel :cough: 6505 :cough:
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I stand by my previous turbo rat recomendation. Assuming you have a good clean, if not buy a freakijg tubescreamer, there is zero point in running a distortion into a bad clean channel :cough: 6505 :cough:


Really? If someone had a 6505 why the FASUIDD would you even bother with a distortion box?

You don't spend 2k on a tube amp known for it's distortion and go "DURRR IMMA BUY A METALZONE FOR MY TONEZZZ"

People actually do this?

If they did need to improve their town on an amp like that they would get a tube screamer to push it, but not a distortion pedal for the main distortion.
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There ARE pros who use Boss pedals. Not the dirtboxes, AFAIK, but Boss nonetheless.
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There ARE pros who use Boss pedals. Not the dirtboxes, AFAIK, but Boss nonetheless.


I know, they have decent effects, but their distortions are laughable IN MY OPINION. I just don't get how there's people that are picky about high quality distortion and amp simulation and yet people use boss equipment that sounds really dated.

Some of their distortion are good, the DS-1, the HM-2 (and even that was discontinued) but a lot, if not most, of their pedals are trying to recreate a sound, and sound nothing like it.

Some of them are amazing for unique sounds, but the metalzone is supposed to be in place of a monstrous modern tube amp? No way dude.
Maybe if you use it with an amp that takes it really well you can get something usable, but that's it. At that point, why get it though?

They need to fire all the people that program that COSM stuff, and do some stuff in their R&D departments. All the other companies did, even when they knew that people already enjoyed their previous distortions and all, but they knew they could improve it when technology paved the way, so why can't they?

I just don't see the justification of spending 100 dollars on something that sounds like old technology.
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#34
lol. The HM-2 hype is so real.

I own an HM-2. I don't own it because it actually sounds good, I own it because it has historical significance, and it was so monumentally instrumental in an entire genre wave that I happen to find inspiration in.

Getting more into it, My favorite band recreating that sound and feeling is Bloodbath, and even they have moved way on from the HM-2, to now using all kinds of amps, notably 6505s and Rectifiers blended with other stuff. And their modern sound (The Fathomless Mastery/Unblesing the Purity tone) is just so much better than that old HM-2 (Resurrection Through Carnage) tone, it's ridiculous. I respect the old tone for what it is and what it was, but at the end of the day you have to step back and look at it.

And I would say the same for their other FX used during the same time. DS-1 or SD-1, or whatever. Bands back then had to use what was available to them. And if that is the sound you're trying to get, then that's fine and easy.

But just using their dirt boxes standalone for your own sound? Nah.
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#35
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....how can boss not make an OD based on TS's for dirt cheap?



IMO if budget pedal shopping look at voodoo lab.


Ummm! The Boss SD-1!!!
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There ARE pros who use Boss pedals. Not the dirtboxes, AFAIK, but Boss nonetheless.


loads of people have used the sd1 i think. zakk wylde for a start. rumours (I think) about EVH maybe using it too.
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#37
They need to fire all the people that program that COSM stuff,


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loads of people have used the sd1 i think. zakk wylde for a start. rumours (I think) about EVH maybe using it too.


Overdrives don't count. Their overdrives I will admit is really good, their distortions on the other hand are garbage. The only ones I like are the DS-1 and HM-2 which I both own.

Others sound thin, fizzy, and scooped.

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Sorry, I meant minus 80% of the effects-based COSM stuff.

Like I said, they have great effects. The tape echo thing is amazing as well.

Those are effects though, which don't need to emulate charactersistics that getting distortion of an amp does.
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Overdrives don't count. Their overdrives I will admit is really good, their distortions on the other hand are garbage. The only ones I like are the DS-1 and HM-2 which I both own.

Others sound thin, fizzy, and scooped.



ah ok, yeah. I haven't tried the hm2 but I would tend to agree. the ODs are pretty good, the dists (apart from maybe the ds1 which is good for certain specific things) not so much.
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