#1
Hi there, I've recently been looking at a few guitars around the £400-£550 range. After looking through all the possible guitars I could get, I have narrowed it down to 3 guitars. These are:

ESP LTD MH-350nt
Ibanez RG721RW-CNF
Godin Redline HB

I have played to ibanez a couple of times but never tried the other two. I know ltd are good for metal and have nice necks however I have no idea how the godin will feel.

If you help me out that would be great.
#2
Godin makes good guitars, and the Redline HB is a very nice hardtail shredder's axe. Made in Canada.
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#3
Out of those I would go for the Ibanez. It's one of their premium guitars, and it should be much better than the LTD. Can't speak for the Godin though.
#5
Well, what did you like and not like about the Ibanez? That can help us determine if one of the others might be better for you.

The LTD will probably sound the best right out of the box, with the Ibanez probably sounding the worst. But pickups are a simple modification and sound shouldn't be a determining factor in buying a guitar.

The Godin will most likely have the best QC, followed by Ibanez then by LTD.

But really it comes down to feel. I have no experience with Godin, but I imagine it falls closer to the LTD's feel than to the Ibanez's.
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#6
From personal taste and preference: LTD, Godin, Ibanez. Those Ibanezes are gorgeous though. They just super disagree with my hand.

The LTD is slightly thicker and considerably rounder than the Ibanez and for me is a more comfortable neck carve - Ibanez necks make my hand tense up.

The Godin I haven't played in a long time, but as I recall they feel pretty good and sound pretty good. Caveat Emptor though, they have 22 frets and the heel is very big and clunky.
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#7
Actually, the Redline HB is 24 fret.
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#8
ibanez/Godin/LTD. ibby will need new pickups, LTD's haven't ever impressed me, i have owned three and sold them all. i had a chance to pickup a godin, it was solid, definitely nice build, but wasn't 'me' (my opinion). i love my ibanez's (1570, 2750, and 3550), the premium are pretty nice too.
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#9
Thanks for the help guys! And I've had mixed opinions on the ibanez when I played it, the body was very comfy and a good size but the fretboard felt dry which made it hard to slide and the pickups sucked, a lot!
#10
i have owned an ibanez rg920qmz and currently own a godin passion rg3 and both were and are amazing. ibanez for my earlier metal shredder faze. and the godin for my single coily strat tones. both companies are great. not too into LTD tho
#11
godin passion rg3


Nice axe!
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#12
I like LTD's, nice necks and solidly built overall. I wouldn't want one with a cheap FR but a tom would be fine. Ibanez makes some darn nice guitars but I never had one that really called to me (subject to change ;P). If you like a start shape with a wicked thin neck and better fret access than you have your guitar. I don't know anything about Godin, but from others words here they are also fine instruments.
#13
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Thanks for the help guys! And I've had mixed opinions on the ibanez when I played it, the body was very comfy and a good size but the fretboard felt dry which made it hard to slide and the pickups sucked, a lot!


Ibanez pickups are going to suck. They all suck. Don't ask my why, I can't tell you. But just factor a pickup swap into the price.

What do you mean by dry? That's a strange descriptor, I haven't ever heard that in the context you're using it.

How did you feel a bout the neck? That's typically the most defining aspect of Ibanez guitars, they are notoriously paper thin compared to other guitars.


Check out LTD M series guitars. They have a similar body to the RG body style, with necks that are also similar, just a tiny bit thicker and a slightly different curve. Jackson Soloist models are also similar to LTD M models in feel.

Consider the Jackson SLXT with a pickup swap - $488 https://reverb.com/item/73229-jackson-soloist-slxt-black?gclid=CI6zvsye4L8CFcRcMgod3jMAZQ

Just remembered there are no LTD M models without Floyd Roses. You can block them though.

The LTD MH and H models have carved tops, and feel very different to the flat tops on Ibanez RGs and LTD Ms. The way your forearm sits on the body can potentially be a make or break deal between the styles.

For example, personally, I don't get along with 6 string RGs, they just don't sit right on me. H models and Ibanez S models feel amazing though, because of the carved tops. Yet when it comes to 7 strings, RGs feel great, for whatever reason the proportion of the neck to the body or whatever, my arm just sits right on it.

You have to really play a bunch of stuff to get a feel for what works for you and what doesn't. It can be hard to find stuff locally though, I know.
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Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
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#14
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What do you mean by dry?


Well when I played it, I think the fingerboard needed oiling because I definitely struggled trying to do slides, or almost anything for that matter. I just didn't seem smooth at all, and I think I only like Ibanez necks or 7's and 8's as they're too thin for a 6.

So far I seem to be more interested in the Godin as I much prefer fixed bridges over TOM bridges (on the LTD). The only thing I need opinions on now is which finish.

http://www.hudobne-nastroje.sk/product/images/godin-redline-hb-trans--sg-rn.jpg

I hope the link works but there it is, if not it's the natural one or the trans black one.
#15
I favor the natural finish. Metal has a tendency towards a heavy, doom & gloom aesthetic, so dark colors predominate. That natural finish would stand out like a scalpel blade...
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#16
I still don't understand. The fretboard shouldn't have any effect on slides, your strings/fingers shouldn't even really touch the fretboard, anyway.
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Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
#17
I dunno, different fretboard material feels different to me, anyway. My technique might be terrible, though.
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I dunno, different fretboard material feels different to me, anyway. My technique might be terrible, though.


No, I definitely agree, but for me I feel it only on bends, not on slides. I'm just trying to imagine the scenario, that's all.

I can only imagine old/crappy strings being attributed to the fretboard.
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
#19
I was used to strat necks. I wanted a guitar with humbuckers and I always loved the looks of Ibanez. So I go to the shop and played 3 or 4 Ibanez and those necks are freakin terrible. Flat and paper thin. Worst necks I've ever played. I ended up with a PRS. But if I had to choose between an Ibanez and a LTD Its ltd all day.
#20
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No, I definitely agree, but for me I feel it only on bends, not on slides. I'm just trying to imagine the scenario, that's all.

I can only imagine old/crappy strings being attributed to the fretboard.


yeah now i think of it i dunno about slides. i just play and think i can feel the fretboard, i'm not thinking "yeah i feel it on that bend but not on a slide"
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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