#1
Hi all,

I have a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe that doesn't have a headphone jack. I'd like a pair of headphones for late night playing when I can't have my amp on without bothering everyone. I don't think it would be safe or convenient to plug in a pair of headphones into the back of my amp where the speaker jack is, so I'm thinking I would set up my pedalboard and plug in at the end of that.

I would like a pair of headphones that will make noise out of both sides with my mono signal. Is such thing possible? I searched on MF for it, but couldn't find anything. Perhaps I'm not looking for the right thing?

Thanks.
Fender '72 Telecaster Deluxe RI
Schecter C-1 Artist II
1978 Music Man HD130
+ a bunch of neat pedals

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#2
You want a stereo to mono plug converter. You can use any stereo headphones with it. No point in buying mono headphones.
#7
Doesn't sound like you are plugging into anything designed to drive headphones. Sounds sketchy to me.
#8
Better test it before using to make sure it's really connecting the tip of the 1/4" to the 1/8" ring and tip and the sleeve of the 1/4" just to the sleeve of the 1/8" end. If it goes ring to sleeve instead of ring to tip, then you short out the right channel on the headphones.

If it doesn't have the juice to power the headphones, then you can get a headphone amp like this: http://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Pro-PHA40-4-Channel-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B003M8NVFS/ref=zg_tr_13880161_6, but you'll still need a 1/4" mono to 1/4" stereo adapter cable.

You can get a cheap mixer like this to drive headphones, too and you won't need any adapters if you plug it into the left input in a stereo channel or into the mono channel: http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-502-XENYX502-5-Channel-Mixer/dp/B000J5UEGQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1407468616&sr=1-1&keywords=5+channel+mixer

Or you can just get this and plug it into your speaker connector in you amp: http://www.amazon.com/Rolls-Headphone-Tap-PM52/dp/B0002D026M/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1407468132&sr=1-7&keywords=mono+headphone+amp, but you better make sure it works with tube amps and not just solid state; be sure it puts enough load on the amp so you don't damage it.

The 5-channel mixer is probably the best and most versatile solution, and if you're not on a tight budget, this model would be a much better choice: http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-MG06X-6-Input-Compact-Stereo/dp/B00I2J4V5G/ref=sr_1_3?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1407468839&sr=1-3&keywords=yamaha+mg+mixer -- it doubles as a DI box and it has effects--plus you can add a couple of mics to the mix or one mic + a pre-amp for your guitar.
#9
When I plug into the pedalboard currently, the headphones function only when one pedal is on. Which makes sense as the headphones aren't internally powered.

Quote by Black'n'Tan
Better test it before using to make sure it's really connecting the tip of the 1/4" to the 1/8" ring and tip and the sleeve of the 1/4" just to the sleeve of the 1/8" end. If it goes ring to sleeve instead of ring to tip, then you short out the right channel on the headphones.

If it doesn't have the juice to power the headphones, then you can get a headphone amp like this: http://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Pro-PHA40-4-Channel-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B003M8NVFS/ref=zg_tr_13880161_6, but you'll still need a 1/4" mono to 1/4" stereo adapter cable.

You can get a cheap mixer like this to drive headphones, too and you won't need any adapters if you plug it into the left input in a stereo channel or into the mono channel: http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-502-XENYX502-5-Channel-Mixer/dp/B000J5UEGQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1407468616&sr=1-1&keywords=5+channel+mixer

Or you can just get this and plug it into your speaker connector in you amp: http://www.amazon.com/Rolls-Headphone-Tap-PM52/dp/B0002D026M/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1407468132&sr=1-7&keywords=mono+headphone+amp, but you better make sure it works with tube amps and not just solid state; be sure it puts enough load on the amp so you don't damage it.

The 5-channel mixer is probably the best and most versatile solution, and if you're not on a tight budget, this model would be a much better choice: http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-MG06X-6-Input-Compact-Stereo/dp/B00I2J4V5G/ref=sr_1_3?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1407468839&sr=1-3&keywords=yamaha+mg+mixer -- it doubles as a DI box and it has effects--plus you can add a couple of mics to the mix or one mic + a pre-amp for your guitar.


I have the older version of this:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/mackie-vlz-series-1202vlz4-12-channel-compact-mixer

Would that work in place of any of the options you gave?
Fender '72 Telecaster Deluxe RI
Schecter C-1 Artist II
1978 Music Man HD130
+ a bunch of neat pedals

screamy emo band
#10
Quote by nick.culliton

I have the older version of this:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/mackie-vlz-series-1202vlz4-12-channel-compact-mixer

Would that work in place of any of the options you gave?
That is exactly what you should be using. Unless you have a pedal with a mixer output you won't be getting any cab like filtering, but if it sounds fine to you then that's what counts.
#11
All right, I will give that a try and post back if I have any issues. Thanks errbudy!
Fender '72 Telecaster Deluxe RI
Schecter C-1 Artist II
1978 Music Man HD130
+ a bunch of neat pedals

screamy emo band
#12
I can't figure out what to plug into to make this work.

My guitar is plugged into my first pedal on my pedalboard. My last pedal is plugged into the mixer. I tried plugging it into the mic 1 channel on top of the board and channel insert 1 on the back of the board. I have my headphones plugged into "phones." Turned phantom power on... nothing seems to work.
Fender '72 Telecaster Deluxe RI
Schecter C-1 Artist II
1978 Music Man HD130
+ a bunch of neat pedals

screamy emo band
#14
Cool. If it sounds funny it might be what fly135 was talking about. You might be able to make up for not having cab emulation by adjusting the EQ on your board. Or you can get something like this: http://www.samash.com/micro-di-pedal-f4513000x-p (you can use it with unbalanced out and just use the cab sim)

or this: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MS50G?device=c&network=g&matchtype=&gclid=CPu9i4qChcACFcRcMgodcQwAqg and just use it for an amp/cab sim--it also compensates EQ for going into a combo, a stack, or direct into a mixer/PA.
#16
The Amplug is another great option--it'll serve the same function as the Multistomp plus the mixer for this scenario--it just won't have as many amp sims--just the one.

BTW, that Radio Shack adapter does go from tip to tip and tip to ring so it truly does convert from 1/4" mono to 3mm stereo--I just bought one last night and it works great. Also in case anyone's wondering, the Zoom Multistomp does not do a great job driving headphones (or even ear buds) on it's own.
#17
Quote by Black'n'Tan
Cool. If it sounds funny it might be what fly135 was talking about. You might be able to make up for not having cab emulation by adjusting the EQ on your board. Or you can get something like this: http://www.samash.com/micro-di-pedal-f4513000x-p (you can use it with unbalanced out and just use the cab sim)

or this: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MS50G?device=c&network=g&matchtype=&gclid=CPu9i4qChcACFcRcMgodcQwAqg and just use it for an amp/cab sim--it also compensates EQ for going into a combo, a stack, or direct into a mixer/PA.


The mixer does the trick just fine on it's own. Setting the EQ helped a lot with the sound I get. Thanks again for your help.
Fender '72 Telecaster Deluxe RI
Schecter C-1 Artist II
1978 Music Man HD130
+ a bunch of neat pedals

screamy emo band
#18
Quote by Black'n'Tan
Also in case anyone's wondering, the Zoom Multistomp does not do a great job driving headphones (or even ear buds) on it's own.
The Zoom MS is not designed to drive headphones. It is designed to drive a 10K or higher load. Headphones generally present a load in the 10's to hundreds of ohms. Same with pedals in general. If it's not a stereo output then you can pretty much assume that it's not designed to do well driving headphones.