#1
Hey. New here so go easy Sisters and Brothers.

I've been playing acoustic for 35 years but just bought my first ever electric, an Epiphone Dot. A whole new thing, with loads of stuff to learn about 'tone' and all.

I think I'm going to get Guitar Rig 5 on my laptop and play through that rather than buy a proper amp, for the time being. So I'm going to need some kind of usb speakers for the laptop to play this all through. Any recommendations?
#2
First recommendation, don't get guitar rig unless you'll be mostly using it for clean and full-of-fx's sounds, it doesn't do distortion much good.

Also you'll need some kind of an audio interface to connect your guitar to your computer and get a half decent sound out of it - read the interfaces sticky in the recording forum for more info about that.

Also for info about amp simulators, there are some free ones you may wanna try before getting guitar rig.

As for the speakers, since you're likely gonna be getting an interface already you may either get a pretty small and cheap interface, say an unbranded guitar link, and a pair of usb monitors, or you may get an audio interface more expensive and a pair of monitors with analog inputs.

If you're going for the usb ones, on the reeeal cheap I like myself alesis' M1 Active 520 usb, then if you're going for some (better) ones with analog in's, have a look at the M-Audio BX5 mkII's.
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#3
Nice one, Spambot 2, thankyou.

Guitar Rig is the only amp/effects simulator I've come across, I didn't know there are free ones. Could you recommend some, please?

Because I'm completely new to electric guitar I thought a simulator would be good to play around with and get ideas about tones before choosing a real amp.
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Also you'll need some kind of an audio interface to connect your guitar to your computer and get a half decent sound out of it - read the interfaces sticky in the recording forum for more info about that.


i see this mentioned quite a bit and i generally post to disagree with this.

i have plenty of recordings using an 1/8" TRS cable with a 1/4" TS adapter on it, i feel the quality is at the very least 'half decent'.

http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/gumbilicious/music/play733334

this next recording has two guitar tracks, one mic'd up through an interface and the other done in a hotel room with a crappy cable going through the native soundcard. just so you can hear the two tones right next to each other in the mix.

http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/gumbilicious/music/play702960

mind you, i agree a decent interface offers far better I/O options and allows for more flexibility higher quality. but for someone on a strict budget that is just playing out of their computer for fun i don't see it being imperative that they get an interface to hook up to amplitube or guitar rig.

in fact i very much disagree about getting a 'cheap interface' over using the native soundcard. i very much dislike almost every sub-$100 interface i have tried and i wouldn't feel good urging someone to get one when their native soundcard will sound as good or better when being plugged directly into.
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Guitar Rig is the only amp/effects simulator I've come across, I didn't know there are free ones. Could you recommend some, please?

Because I'm completely new to electric guitar I thought a simulator would be good to play around with and get ideas about tones before choosing a real amp.


You can try Amplitube 3 actually, there's a free trial version of it (I think) with few amps and cabs.
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#6
This would work great and is pretty cheap


www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/line-6-pod-studio-gx-with-pod-farm

If you have an Ipod, Ipad or Iphone you can get these and they are pretty decent especially for the price




www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/peavey-ampkit-link-guitar-interface-for-iphone-and-ipod-touch
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#7
@Gumbilicious, differing viewpoints all welcome here my friend, You give me plenty to think about. Thanks for sharing those tunes, too.

@MatejSJ, I'll check out amplitude stuff, thanks mate.

@Robgnarley, I just saw that ten minutes ago on Premier Guitar magazine. Will it work on a laptop or only on the ipad thingy?
#8
the second thing I listed is the Peavey and it will only work on Ipod/Ipad/Iphone

The Line 6 I listed will work on PC/Mac but not Ipod/Ipad/Iphone.

where are you located in the world, I might be able to find you something cheap.
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the second thing I listed is the Peavey and it will only work on Ipod/Ipad/Iphone

The Line 6 I listed will work on PC/Mac but not Ipod/Ipad/Iphone.

where are you located in the world, I might be able to find you something cheap.


I'm in England, Rob.

Thanks for your help.
#10
sweetwater has jbl lsr monitors buy one get one half off. you could score the lsr305s for $225 shipped. thats pretty amazing. and i used a presonus audiobox usb. can be had for 100 and even less used. the monitors are great. i have them myself.
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#11
amplitube is pretty solid if you have some decent monitors. but i def prefer my blackstar metal of course. i still use the amplitube for the tuner from time to time. and it worked until i had the funds to get another amp.
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#12
Amplitube is a great amp sim, however i find the cabs a little to be desired.

its pretty cheap and reliable.

if you wanna go a bit more advanced, look into the Reaper DAW ($40/£30 i think)
and then get some lepoulin plug ins they are mostly free and pretty damn good
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#13
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I'm in England, Rob.

Thanks for your help.

Here is the L6 from GuitarGuitar in the UK www.guitarguitar.co.uk/recording-studio/detail.asp?stock=08103114382129

You can also check www.thomann.de they have good prices and ship all over EU
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#14
Thanks for sorting that out for me, Robbgnarley.

Thanks everyone else for your input. I'm gonna spend my weekend checking out your recommendations.
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Thanks for sorting that out for me, Robbgnarley.

Thanks everyone else for your input. I'm gonna spend my weekend checking out your recommendations.

Yeah, it is kinda sick that I know all of these music stores that I will never ever visit because I live in the US

Thanks UG
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#16
All of those above are good choices.

You can also go the DIY route and get an USB to 1/4 cable/audio adapter (like Guitarlink) and USB or regular monitors, even some decent computer speakers and get free amp sims like LePou, etc.

Behringer Guitar Link says "Stereo Headphone output lets you jam with your computer and can also be used for monitoring with active monitor speakers", anyone know if that can be connected to monitors?
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/UCG102.aspx

Alternately you can get an audio interface and add powered monitors instead of USB monitors. I am a fan of Studio One which comes with its own amp sims, Presonus audio interfaces come bundled in with that. There are also dealers for softwarer with the other manufacturers that you can use to get started.

On the cheap I like the M-Audio AV 40 delivered really decent results when I mixed in a guerrilla garage situation. You could also go up a tad and get the Alesis MKII, but if you're on a budget M-Audio is pretty good for starting out.
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Behringer Guitar Link says "Stereo Headphone output lets you jam with your computer and can also be used for monitoring with active monitor speakers", anyone know if that can be connected to monitors?
You can connect the headphones out to the monitor's line in, ideally with a lower input sensitivity.

As for the samson, they may as well just work but there's not one chance they'll sound even half decent, and 2 20w amps in a two way speaker, or one 20w amp depending on how you wanna interpret the description, will not be loud enough for most people.
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