#1
So I have began the journey of selecting a Amp Head. I have owned the spider IV HD150 in the past, liked it, but I don't know whether or not to just pick up one of those again or spend little extra dough and get a Spider valve Mkii hd100. I am currently in a band and the 2nd guitarist is running a tube half stack. Would a spider iv hd150 kill our sound if I play it while he plays a tube? Another thing what's the main differences on the spider valve mkii and just regular Mk?? I think I'm to the point where I want to lean towards the nicer spider valve instead of the modeling amp. Just exploring my options. All input is appreciated. Thank you guys. ( and yes I want my amp to be only a line 6)
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Last edited by DimeShreder1 at Aug 15, 2014,
#2
Line 6 only? Stubborn....

You didn't mention what kind of band you are in or a budget.

This thread may end badly.


http://www.musicgoround.com/p/192234/used-line-6-vetta-hd-solid-state-head

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Last edited by lemurflames at Aug 15, 2014,
#3
As asked already - what type of music are you playing? Are you miking the amps to the PA, or planning to? What do you have for speaker cabinets, since you are only asking about an amp? You need to make sure your cabs match your amp, not only for impedance and power capacity but for overall tone. Line 6 speakers will sound sucky with a non-modeling amp head because they are designed to give a cleaner sound.

The difference between the Spider HD MkII and the Spider Valve MkII - tubes. That's what 'valve' means - it has tubes in it (either output or preamp). The Spider Valve is still a modeling amp, just not 100% solid state.
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#4
If you reeeally want a line 6 I'd suggest a Pod HD500 + a pair of active speakers.
If you want a modeling amp head I'd look into the vypyr tube though.
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If you have to buy a L6, Spider Valves are decent ( I owned the Mk I for 4 yrs), Flextones are a great middle of the road L6, HD 147 are a great Metal amp, the L6 Duo-Verb is a great amp and the L6 Vetta is very nice
regular spiders suck ass in a band situation, I know first hand
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Quote by lemurflames
Line 6 only? Stubborn....

You didn't mention what kind of band you are in or a budget.

This thread may end badly.


http://www.musicgoround.com/p/192234/used-line-6-vetta-hd-solid-state-head

http://www.musicgoround.com/p/176363/used-line-6-vetta-w-ftbo

I just prefer line 6. And Metalcore. $800. Just asking for answers, not negative feedback sir. Thank you. And I apologize for my vague post.
Guitars:
Ibanez Prestige RG652AHM
Ibanez Prestige RG1527
Ibanez RGT42
Schecter Hellraiser C7
83 Peavey Patriot Special

Amps:
EVH 5150iii 50watt head
Line 6 Spider Valve HD100 MKii
Mesa 4x12 Cab
Albion GLS-412 Cabinet
Line 6 Spider Jam
#7
Line Six Spyder for Metal-core?

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Quote by DimeShreder1
I just prefer line 6. And Metalcore. $800. Just asking for answers, not negative feedback sir. Thank you. And I apologize for my vague post.

You want a great metalcore sound under $800, get a 5150/6505 2x12 combo used from GC or Musicgoround
5150/6505 is THE metalcore sound
The best L6 has for what you want is the HD147 and it has gotten pricey used.
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#9
http://www.musicgoround.com/p/214252/used-peavey-6505-plus-120w-guitar-amp-head

You only prefer Line 6 because it is all you have and you don't know any better. If you're going to tell me I'm wrong and list other brands you have experience with, I probably won't believe you.
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Last edited by lemurflames at Aug 15, 2014,
#10
Ignore the Line 6 naysayers. The spider valve's not the little practice amp everyone loves to hate, and it's not a bad combination of FX, 12 AX7 preamp and 6L6 power amp.
The MK 1 was, in fact, the best selling tube head, period, shortly after its release. The II is better.

That said, you might want to consider marrying an HD500 and a basic tube power amp (I have the Carvin TS100, a 50W/50W two-unit rackmount that will allow you to use 6L6 on one channel and el34s on the other if you wish.

This gives you greater flexibility. You can simply run the HD500 direct into a PA, you can up the ante with a 1500W HD1500 solid state power amp -- weighs 9 pounds -- or you can run the HD500 into a set of recording monitors for home practice. I recently added the Torpedo C.A.B. (provides power amp simulations and great cab IRs) as an alternate back end for the Pod HD, and it's a pretty amazing combination.
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Quote by lemurflames
http://www.musicgoround.com/p/214252/used-peavey-6505-plus-120w-guitar-amp-head

You only prefer Line 6 because it is all you have and you don't know any better. If you're going to tell me I'm wrong and list other brands you have experience with, I probably won't believe you.

Your right. All I have owned is line 6. I have tried a couple peavys here and there. I am a simple guy, I am comfortable with line 6 products. That is all. Appreciate the feedback tho.
Guitars:
Ibanez Prestige RG652AHM
Ibanez Prestige RG1527
Ibanez RGT42
Schecter Hellraiser C7
83 Peavey Patriot Special

Amps:
EVH 5150iii 50watt head
Line 6 Spider Valve HD100 MKii
Mesa 4x12 Cab
Albion GLS-412 Cabinet
Line 6 Spider Jam
#12
Quote by dspellman
Ignore the Line 6 naysayers. The spider valve's not the little practice amp everyone loves to hate, and it's not a bad combination of FX, 12 AX7 preamp and 6L6 power amp.
The MK 1 was, in fact, the best selling tube head, period, shortly after its release. The II is better.

That said, you might want to consider marrying an HD500 and a basic tube power amp (I have the Carvin TS100, a 50W/50W two-unit rackmount that will allow you to use 6L6 on one channel and el34s on the other if you wish.

This gives you greater flexibility. You can simply run the HD500 direct into a PA, you can up the ante with a 1500W HD1500 solid state power amp -- weighs 9 pounds -- or you can run the HD500 into a set of recording monitors for home practice. I recently added the Torpedo C.A.B. (provides power amp simulations and great cab IRs) as an alternate back end for the Pod HD, and it's a pretty amazing combination.

Thank you so much for this feedback. So I could purchase the HD500 and run it into a tube head? That could be so much simpler in a sense. Do you have any videos of your rig?
Guitars:
Ibanez Prestige RG652AHM
Ibanez Prestige RG1527
Ibanez RGT42
Schecter Hellraiser C7
83 Peavey Patriot Special

Amps:
EVH 5150iii 50watt head
Line 6 Spider Valve HD100 MKii
Mesa 4x12 Cab
Albion GLS-412 Cabinet
Line 6 Spider Jam
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Boss NS-2 - $40 http://www.guitarcenter.com/Boss-Used-Boss-NS2-Noise-Suppressor-Effect-Pedal-110416600-i3896627.gc

MXR 10 Band - $120 http://www.guitarcenter.com/MXR-M-108-Ten-Band-Graphic-EQ-102163383-i1124444.gc


Put the EQ and Noise Gate in the FX loop, put the OD in front. Get 4 cables to hook them up (around 20 feet each is good). Instant metalcore tone.


The Spiders are awful. Including the Spider Valves. I have worked with them extensively, no other amp I know of has made me want to pull my hair out the way they do.
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Last edited by Offworld92 at Aug 15, 2014,
#15
^ and I think the SV is a good amp after owning one for a while. But for the metalcore sound, Peavey 5150/6505 is the answer
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#16
Why don't you just stick your head in a mangle instead? It'd be a cheaper way of acheiving the same result.


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