#1
I've been trying to do my research but there never seems to be a right answer. The majority have suggested the MacBook Pro. But What about building your own laptop?
What have you done that you'd suggest?
Where do you go to build a laptop?
What did you put in your custom-built studio laptop?
Or is it not worth it? Is there a laptop you'd suggest for a home studio?
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#2
Quote by Billwallace89
But What about building your own laptop?
You don't build custom laptops.

It's not like it's not doable, but it's very highly unpractical and it's difficult to get a good result, and since nobody does that the prices of worthwhile stuff you would put in a laptop is high compared to what you would put in a desktop.

If you want to buy pieces and build a computer, you gotta buy a desktop.
If you want a laptop for recording, get a macbook pro.
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#3
There are specialist brands that also sell audio laptops, look them up. From what I know in England and rest of Europe that's more of a thing.
I bought stock HP mid quality i7 machine for around $800 and it works fine.
There are a few bare bones laptops that you can upgrade from but I haven't looked into it. Overall I think you can look up gaming PCs and they'll handle recording. Check soundonsound.com where in the forum there is a list of compatible windows machines.
I think sweetwater.com sells some Windows machines.
#4
Stateside recording computer builder (PCs and laptops)

http://www.adkproaudio.com/laptop3.asp

British custom builder:

http://www.carillonac1.com/carillon-audio-computers/laptops/
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#5
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If you want to buy pieces and build a computer, you gotta buy a desktop.
If you want a laptop for recording, get a macbook pro.

This.

Alternatively, if you want the best machine (I'm not saying for the money) for recording, buy a Mac Pro tower. But let's me real, nobody in this forum is shelling out for one of those (although many of us which we could haha)
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#6
Not sure what Mac's commitment is to the pro sector, the new Mac Pro towers are a joke compared to what they were building, almost no upgrade capacity and not that many external ports. I'd hate to say this but it seems that they are gearing more towards the trendy prosumer that wants to sprinkle a bit of "bling" than towards audio and video specialists.
Still, their OS is years better than the abomination of Windows 8.
#7
I bought a Lenovo laptop last month for 800 euro's and it's working perfectly.

Main thing you want to look is for a strong processor. Mine features a Haswell I7 Quad core with core speed of about 2.4ghz but can run at 3.2GHZ if oc'd. I Also have a dedicated graphics card (Geforce Gtm 740) because it's easy on the cpu, and the laptop screen is a 17 inch screen running at 1080p so that takes a little bit as well.

Make sure that you not neglect single core speed just in favour of getting an i7 or quad, Ableton live for example uses 1 core per track so core speed is essential if you have one heavy plugin track.

I can run a gamecube emulator, while playing guitar through VST and have HD youtube video on without any slowdowns running dual screen. Always fun when friends come over and still remarkable I can run 3 fairly heavy tasks at the same time from one machine. Technologies... anyways..

That being said, for that price you can most likely build a bit better desktop pc (big difference is the non mobile versions of the Cpu and Gpu which are generally more reliable and run at more consistent speeds. Really ask yourself if you need the mobility. Also a good audio interface is half the battle.

I also run windows 8, but I just came from Mountain lion on mac so can't compare, but so far it works and I have no errors. Though keeping your pc clean and slightly tweaked helps wonders.

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#8
I have a 2i4. I'm planning on upgrading to the 18i8 or 20. But all I have is a ten year old POS PC. It's super slow. After a lot of thinking, and arguing with myself, I can't justify dropping 2500 on a Mac at the moment. I'll look into the Lenovo. And I'll definitely keep the quad core in mind, before reading this just seeing "i7" got me giddy.
Gear:
Fender Telecaster w/ Dual Gibson Humbuckers
Ovation Celebrity Acoustic/Electric
Fender Frontman 212R
Band(s):
Old Too Young (Folk/Bluegrass/Punk)
The Orange Line (Stoner Metal/Punk/Alternative)
#9
I've googled it a hundred times but I can't seem to find anywhere to type in the specs I'm looking for and just find a laptop.
Gear:
Fender Telecaster w/ Dual Gibson Humbuckers
Ovation Celebrity Acoustic/Electric
Fender Frontman 212R
Band(s):
Old Too Young (Folk/Bluegrass/Punk)
The Orange Line (Stoner Metal/Punk/Alternative)
#10
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I have a 2i4. I'm planning on upgrading to the 18i8 or 20. But all I have is a ten year old POS PC. It's super slow. After a lot of thinking, and arguing with myself, I can't justify dropping 2500 on a Mac at the moment. I'll look into the Lenovo. And I'll definitely keep the quad core in mind, before reading this just seeing "i7" got me giddy.
I highly suggest looking into a better sounding interface than that if you're looking for an upgrade, and if you gotta save up on something get something with an i3, better if high clocked.

Most DAW's, and stuff that hosts plugin and does more than one thing at a time in general, like hyperthreading, which is an i3 and i7 feature.
The big advantage of i7's is that they come clocked higher and they're designed to be overclocked - see the turbo boost feature which the i5's also have, and overclocking is among the last things you need here.

Also considering it's for recording and audio editing, invest in some veeery fast HDD or an SSD big enough and fast RAM.

Also seriously, if you're upgrading get something better than a focusrite scarlett.
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#11
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I highly suggest looking into a better sounding interface than that if you're looking for an upgrade

Stop saying this kind of thing.

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Also seriously, if you're upgrading get something better than a focusrite scarlett.

Fucking hell, Luca!
#12
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Stop saying this kind of thing.

Fucking hell, Luca!
'cause some people think they sound fine or 'cause you're asking me kindly?

Seriously, you proved more than once that you have little to no clue about how these things work and that you have little experience in this field, so I suggest you giving an advice yourself if you feel like, being it the same or the opposite of mine, stop complaining about the fact that I have opinions different from most of you, and going reading a book and listening to audio interfaces so next time you come here you know what you're talking about.
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#13
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I highly suggest looking into a better sounding interface than that if you're looking for an upgrade, and if you gotta save up on something get something with an i3, better if high clocked.

Most DAW's, and stuff that hosts plugin and does more than one thing at a time in general, like hyperthreading, which is an i3 and i7 feature.
The big advantage of i7's is that they come clocked higher and they're designed to be overclocked - see the turbo boost feature which the i5's also have, and overclocking is among the last things you need here.

Also considering it's for recording and audio editing, invest in some veeery fast HDD or an SSD big enough and fast RAM.

Also seriously, if you're upgrading get something better than a focusrite scarlett.

FFS we get it YOU HAVE A VENDETTA AGAINST THE SCARLETT SERIES. It's almost like we have a more articulate T4D back . Even if we assume that your precious blackjack (which I know you're going to recommend because you always do) is better, is it really going to be so definitively better to warrant buying it when TS already has a 2i4? I really wish someone had both so we could just do a blind test and get over it.

Also that's some real iffy descriptions of the computer stuff. Hyperthreading is a technology that simulates twice as many cores as there is, but true cores are (almost) always better than hyperthreading, therefor i3<i5<i7. They all come at comparable clock speeds really, and the differences are fairly negligible (you won't notice the difference between 3.2 and 3.4 unless you're on the scale of hour long renders, and even then it'll only save you like 5 minutes). There's no such thing as 'designed' to be overclocked, the definition of overclocking is to run it faster than it was designed to. Also don't overclock studio machines, the increased heat will make the fan run noisier, and the decreased stability will give you all sorts of fun. And unless you know all the intricacies of the C ratings of the ram as well as the MHz it's pretty tough to tell which ram is definitively 'fast'.
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FFS we get it YOU HAVE A VENDETTA AGAINST THE SCARLETT SERIES. It's almost like we have a more articulate T4D back .
I don't like bad sounding stuff, so it's not the scarlett series only.
The saffire series is just about the same if ya ask me.
Then there's a lot of cheap stuff I don't like the sound of.

I advise people not to buy scarlett's more than other stuff because scarlett's get mentioned more than anything else here.

Also I can't figure what T4D means
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Even if we assume that your precious blackjack (which I know you're going to recommend because you always do) is better, is it really going to be so definitively better to warrant buying it when TS already has a 2i4?
He mentioned a 18i8, so I would have suggested interfaces bigger than the onyx blackjack.

Also yes, it's a hell of an upgrade, both on paper and in the real world.
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Also that's some real iffy descriptions of the computer stuff. Hyperthreading is a technology that simulates twice as many cores as there is
That's an exaggerated simplification.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-threading
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but true cores are (almost) always better than hyperthreading, therefor i3<i5<i7.
That really is not the reason why i7's are better than i3's.
Apart from the clock speeds, the i7's have more cache, better integrated graphics, and possibly more energy efficient.
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There's no such thing as 'designed' to be overclocked, the definition of overclocking is to run it faster than it was designed to.
It's not a hell of an idea in the first place, though they make stuff designed to be oc'd, yeah.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Turbo_Boost
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Also don't overclock studio machines, the increased heat will make the fan run noisier, and the decreased stability will give you all sorts of fun.
I agree, and I thought I pointed that out, but I disagree on the stability - you can keep your stuff pretty stable if you know what you're doing.

Also the turbo boost thing manages to raise the clock frequency (to an extent) without any stability decrease.
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And unless you know all the intricacies of the C ratings of the ram as well as the MHz it's pretty tough to tell which ram is definitively 'fast'.
Bandwidth is arguable to an extent, but latency isn't even, and latency's among the most important things here if ya ask me.
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#15
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'cause some people think they sound fine or 'cause you're asking me kindly?

Seriously, you proved more than once that you have little to no clue about how these things work and that you have little experience in this field, so I suggest you giving an advice yourself if you feel like, being it the same or the opposite of mine, stop complaining about the fact that I have opinions different from most of you, and going reading a book and listening to audio interfaces so next time you come here you know what you're talking about.




Just because you articulate well doesn't mean you're not bullshitting and spouting stuff that is your opinion, as it was in the past instances you're referring to.
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#16
This turned into an OC debate lmao.

My machine is not oc'd and I have no reason to do so at this point. It runs just fine.

Keep in mind that developing a daw is not just making nice gui and add plug ins. A big portion of companies write their software with specs in mind, and is an essential part of the developing.

It's simple, the (haswell) I7 and to extent quite an amount of I5's have been hyped up and are also in many apple machines.

Regardless of the actual specs, it would be incredible dumb marketing strategy for someone like the ableton live team to not fully test and/or write their program on an i7 machine. Especially if simple statistic research would most likely show that big portion of musicians with apple pc's use live or are planning to. They want users to have the best experience and they (devs) use the most popular and/or strong cpu there is, both for potential better software possibilities and stability.

Writing crazy algorhytmic reverb plugins for just OC'd machines is a nice bonus, but is not the main focus for software writers..or at least it shouldn't be if they want to stay relevant to the main consumer market.

I just use live for an example, but this is a very general strategy in regards to businesses of any kind.

Ie. Why do Nintendo games hardly crash or never lag? Because it features the best designed cpu or gpu? No offcourse not, it's because it was developed for specific hardware and not necessarily the best spec'd hardware.

This applies to Apple as well.

Tldr; get a mid to high tier i5 or i7 and most daws will work. Offcourse the rest is important, but people in here seem to go ape shit on the cpu.

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#17
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Just because you articulate well doesn't mean you're not bullshitting and spouting stuff that is your opinion, as it was in the past instances you're referring to.
The fact that you can't articulate and you have close to zero experience about this stuff on the other hand is a guarantee that you are spouting stuff that's your uninformed opinion.

Everybody here is expressing his own opinion, and my problem's not with that, my problem's that you're bashing my opinion, not my suggestion.

It doesn't even matter if you have or haven't heard whatever other audio interface in person, 'cause you're not saying something doesn't sound good or it sounds worse than whatever scarlett, you're saying that I should stop pointing out that the 2i4 doesn't sound that good, because to you guys it sounds just fine.

Also the past instances I was referring to are the ones where you wrote stuff like "the 2i4 sounds better than the 2i2 because it has a pad".
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