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#2
I don't think I'd ever leave my house if I were to get one of those. My neighbors would eventually kill me.
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#4
Cool but I don't think the market exists for these.

The built in distortion seems really useless.
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#5
The distortion sounds Metallica, guys. That's not bad. I think.

Also, it seems we can finally whammy without a whammy bar.
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#9
Props for trying to do something new, but there's no market for this.

It sounds and lookslike shit too.
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#10
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It sounds like a cool concept, but...it only works as a concept. People still want physical amps, as in amps that aren't attached to their guitars.
#11
That's cool. It looks like crap but if someone takes the idea and runs with it, there absolutely could be a market for an electric guitar with those features. They need to be able to market it at 200$ or less for the youngsters though.

Advantages for a newb - get into the hobby without the need for an amp. Just plug in headphones. Don't need a pedal to make distortion tones. Cheaper to construct the guitar, because all the sound is being processed inside the controller, so plywood construction won't matter. You don't need more than one pickup either.

And you could also remove most of the need for tuning too. There's no reason why they couldn't pitch-correct with a good enough processor.

And I'd be willing to bet that a really creative and skilled player would be able to do wicked things with a touchscreen controller.
#13
i kind of want this im currious to what it costs, the stoner in me would be amused for weeks.
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#14
But I already saw your mom this week!

But seriously, this would have been really cool for playing KMFDM covers in 1997.
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#15
List price is $577.76 for both the guitar and bass so retail will probably be a little over $400. But I'm guessing the instruments won't be too good considering a Mini KP2 alone costs $160.

Matt Bellamy has a XY pad on his Manson and that's what probably inspired Ibanez to make this. Other people have put XY pads on guitars too but they're all MIDI. I think Ibanez is taking it a step further by not having it MIDI. You can just plug it into an amp and be good to go. It's a very simple setup compared to the traditional way to use a Kaos Pad with a guitar.

You can also sample and record on the Mini KP2.
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#16
Cool, ignore what people really want and make more niche guitars that only a few would even consider.
#17
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Cool, ignore what people really want and make more niche guitars that only a few would even consider.



sarcasm? or nah?
#18
Well, I think it's a cool idea but judging by the demo it sounds terrible (and looks ugly).
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#19
Something that puzzles me is that Gibson has been trying to put effects like these into guitars for several years now. And they've all been commercial failures. Why didn't Ibanez get the hint that most guitarists are not very interested in this kind of technology?
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#21
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Something that puzzles me is that Gibson has been trying to put effects like these into guitars for several years now. And they've all been commercial failures. Why didn't Ibanez get the hint that most guitarists are not very interested in this kind of technology?


Good question. I think it's the battery/power issue that causes it to fail. I would love to have delay built into the guitar with a tap tempo and a mix knob.
#22
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Good question. I think it's the battery/power issue that causes it to fail. I would love to have delay built into the guitar with a tap tempo and a mix knob.

It's not the power issue at all. It's the fact that many of the effects these guitars have are effects that have been available as pedals/stompboxes/amps for decades. It's trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

Not only that, but the effects these guitars have are exclusive to the guitars only. If your effects setup consists of the on-board effects of the guitar, plugging in another guitar makes you lose all the effects you once had. The idea is fundamentally flawed on so many levels.
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#25
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Ibanez' are overrated.
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#27
Meh, I already have better planned

- Squier VM Jaguar
- Swap Trem out for Mustang Trem
- Install guts for Kaos Pad into Floating Trem Cavity
- add additional switching features to the Rhythm Circuit panel

thinking about doing this and throwing a Sustainiac and maybe MiDi in the mix to create the most psychotic nightmare of wiring ever. This plan is far off though.
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#28
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Nah.

They really are. Given the circle jerking fanboys.

I hope you know I'm kidding. Although the fanboyism does annoy me.
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#29
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I really want to like the idea of a commercial effects pad if it was implemented to be usable with any guitar. I struggle with it though, because expression pedals are a thing.
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#30
So... I guess I'm the only one that thinks the guitar is stupid?


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#31
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They really are. Given the circle jerking fanboys.

I hope you know I'm kidding. Although the fanboyism does annoy me.

NO! YOU'RE SO WRONG! NO ONE UNDERSTANDS ME!

I figured you were kidding, Mac. And the fanboyism is bad, yes.


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So... I guess I'm the only one that thinks the guitar is stupid?



No, it's totally stupid. But...it could lead to something...okay, one day...soon. Maybe.
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#32
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NO! YOU'RE SO WRONG! NO ONE UNDERSTANDS ME!

I figured you were kidding, Mac. And the fanboyism is bad, yes.



No, it's totally stupid. But...it could lead to something...okay, one day...soon. Maybe.



Yeah like the idea of it is coolish?


What really doesn't help convince me is that video. Did they not listen to how terrible that shit sounded before they uploaded it?
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#33
Yeah the guitar (particularly the distortion to me) sounds bad. But if the distortion is controllable through the pad, it could just be the demoer,
trying to advertise to those fanboys.


I've seen pad effects done before, and I've seen effects literally on a guitar before. Ibanez has somewhat refined it to the kaos pad. They just need to rip it out of that guitar and make it a stand alone product.
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#34
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Yeah like the idea of it is coolish?

Exactly. If further refined, it could be a good thing for beginners.

What really doesn't help convince me is that video. Did they not listen to how terrible that shit sounded before they uploaded it?

I know. It's bad marketing.
#35
There goes another great invention in the guitar world, fixing a problem that doesn't exist.
#36
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Exactly. If further refined, it could be a good thing for beginners.


I know. It's bad marketing.



It's almost anti-marketing. Like I hear that shit and just go 'nope' right away.
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#37
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There goes another great invention in the guitar world, fixing a problem that doesn't exist.


I kind of see it as guitars can now have a place in (broad term here) electronica's environments.

Heavy dubstep drops don't have to be pre-rendered from someone's laptop. Guitars can do it now.
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#38
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I kind of see it as guitars can now have a place in (broad term here) electronica's environments.

Heavy dubstep drops don't have to be pre-rendered from someone's laptop. Guitars can do it now.



I bet that dubmetal kid on Youtube would have a field day with that thing.
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#40
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There goes another great invention in the guitar world, fixing a problem that doesn't exist.

I'm sure that's what they said about electric guitars in the '30s.

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It's almost anti-marketing. Like I hear that shit and just go 'nope' right away.

Yup.

I mean, I'm impressed they get those tones with that tinyass amp (built in to the guitar, no less), but I'd also really, really, really, REALLY rather buy a physical amp and get a tone that's 100times better.
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