#1
Right. I am aware that there is hundreds of things about neck dive, but most are either focusing on SGs and basses, or are really vague. I have a BC Rich Masterpiece Mockingbird, and it neck dives like a bitch. I can't fit a bigger strap button because it points the wrong way. Any suggestions? Also I don't really wanna spend too much money on this, so please try and keep any solutions reasonably priced.
#2
A bigger strap button won't fix anything anyway. What you want is to re-position the strap button so the guitar balances better standing up.


You could try a less slippery strap material too.
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#3
Where is the strap button now? Moving it to the heel of the neck seems to work for me with explorer shapes. The Mockingbird shape isn't far off that.
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Where is the strap button now? Moving it to the heel of the neck seems to work for me with explorer shapes. The Mockingbird shape isn't far off that.



IIRC they're like an LP for the button position.
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IIRC they're like an LP for the button position.


Ah, looked at some pics and it looks like they put it on the "upper horn" on the backside of the body.
Move the button.
You can always go get a "command adhesive" hook and use it to try a couple other locations on a very temporary basis and see if that helps. The tape they come with is designed to not harm finishes, but should be strong enough to hold the guitar. Try and find a spot where it doesn't cause the dive.

http://www.command.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/NACommand/Command/?WT.mc_id=www.command.com&WT.ctod=15:33
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#6
The right solution is to rebalance the guitar (though the smart solution would have been to buy a non-neck-heavy guitar in the first place), and that involves drilling a hole in the bottom of the guitar and adding weight. I had a guitar tech who used to do a ton of SGs, mostly drilling into the edge, adding tungsten and epoxy for weight, then fashioning a mahogany plug to cover the hole, sanding and refinishing that one area. Unnoticeable unless you were looking for it. Others, he pulled the bottom strap button, drilled the hole there, filled with tungsten and epoxy and the aforementioned mahogany plug and the screw for the bottom strap button.

You can simulate this on the cheap by sewing some weights onto the strap (or hanging them off the strap button) at the bottom of the guitar. In either case, playability is enormously enhanced when you don't have to support the neck of the guitar with your fretting hand while trying to play.

Ignore any suggestions to buy a thicker strap or one that grips better -- this ends up pulling the back of your shirt up and doesn't actually solve the problem. It just masks it for a bit.
#7
Add 1/2 lb of large galvanized washers to the tail end of your strap. Done. Cheap and easy fix. No need to move the strap button or drill holes.

This guy has a pretty good solution for 7 string bass which has massive neck dive.
http://www.whoisjaylamm.com/2013/05/21/make-your-own-guitar-counterweight-for-neck-heavy-instruments-a-special-how-to/
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#8
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You could try a less slippery strap material too.

This is the solution that always works for me - leather strap with a rough, gripping underside - the guitar won't move if the strap can't slip.
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This is the solution that always works for me - leather strap with a rough, gripping underside - the guitar won't move if the strap can't slip.


Any particular straps you can recommend? The only ones I can seem to find are either stupidly expensive or not long enough. Also I live in the UK, so preferably keep the sellers UK Based.
#10
Get one of these in an XL length
www.levysleathers.com/product;cat,836;item,488;Suede-Leather-MS1

I'm lucky my dad is a Leather smith and my sister does custom bike leathers, so I just buy a nice leather strap and make my own longer piece.
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#11
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Any particular straps you can recommend? The only ones I can seem to find are either stupidly expensive or not long enough. Also I live in the UK, so preferably keep the sellers UK Based.


I like those dangleberry grained leather ones (~£20). Really soft and nice. though they seem to be out of stock of the black ones. Also not sure about the length, I'm slightly taller than average (5ft 11ish) so length normally isn't a massive problem for me (don't quote that out of context anyone ).
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#12
I've recently done a tutorial where i discuss varius neckdive solutions and the one i did. Hope it helps, catch:

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