#1
Hello all!

This is a nice problem to have.....but I'd really appreciate your opinion:

I've just landed myself a new job, so as a 'reward', so I'm thinking about treating myself to a new guitar in the budget range £1,500 - £2,500.
I've been playing for 22 years now, and I play at a decent level.

OK, so here's my requirements:

My playing style & sounds:
1. Rhythm – fat metal / rock grooves and palm muted chuggery.
2. Cleans – all the way from sparkling clean arpeggios to fat overdriven blues sounds.

To give you some idea – here are a couple of my bands demo's: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjF9SGzdz49daQC1as_AbxA

My 2 current guitars:
2002 Ibanez 1220TKS S series, with a blocked Lo-Pro Edge trem, and a set of DiMarzio Evolutions.
ESP Ltd. EC1000 with sterile sounding EMG's and a buzzy neck.

Features I'd like:
A guitar that really resonates and feels alive.
Fixed bridge (preferably string-through).
22 frets.
Ebony fretboard.
A nice solid low-action neck (preferably set).
2 x hot but versatile passive humbuckers.
Versatile pick up switching (coil tapping).
Archtop / flame maple would be nice.

Stuff I have considered:
PRS – the Tremonti Signature looks nice, but I don't want a trem.
MusicMan Axis / Super Sport – I believe the necks are very small??
Schecter – nice build but not great pick-ups and switching options.
Ibanez – Hmmm....a bit too full-on 'metal'.

What else is out there guys? What do you think??

Cheers
Scott
#2
I'd go custom with that budget.
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#3
It's not quite as expensive but a Godin Lgx would match the features you want perfectly
#4
Why not sell the LTD and get an ESP (E-II now) Eclipse?

http://www.espguitars.com/products/9984-e-ii-eclipse-db-vb?category_id=1963524-eclipse-series-guitars-3

Pickups are really easy to swap. You shouldn't shop based on them. Chances are a guitar won't come with your ideal pickups.
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My band:
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(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

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#5
Quote by Fisheth24
I'd go custom with that budget.

Ditto, unless I had something specific in mind...which I often do.

Nice demos, too!
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Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Sep 14, 2014,
#8
Parkers kick ass, but most if not all of them equipped with a trem.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
#9
Quote by Fisheth24
I'd go custom with that budget.

Me too. Hell, for $2,500, you could easily get a service like Warmoth to make you a beauty.
#10
FWIW, luthiers often have premade guitars for sale.

For example, MacPherson currently has a few models in stock that are in your price range:
http://www.macphersonguitars.com/for_sale.html

Rice Guitar has these:
http://www.ricecustomguitars.com/forsale.php
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Sep 15, 2014,
#11
OK fellas, thanks for the great answers!

I did look into Parkers, but they are kind of few and far between in the UK....and no fixed bridges

I'll be researching UK based luthiers to see what's out there.
....the doors open up on a whole new world... (sounds like a song).

Thanks again!
Scott
#12
Quote by scott.travis2
OK fellas, thanks for the great answers!

I did look into Parkers, but they are kind of few and far between in the UK....and no fixed bridges

I'll be researching UK based luthiers to see what's out there.
....the doors open up on a whole new world... (sounds like a song).

Thanks again!
Scott


A WHOLE NEW WORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRLD (Sorry, too much Disney)

Look at Serpentine, Daemoness and Waghorn. They're the three I'd use, Imo.
Bass Gear:

Mensinger: Speesy
Fender Precision 1989 (CIJ Rosewood)
Fender Steve Harris (CIJ)
Lakland J Sonic 5
Epiphone Explorer
Maruszczyk (custom) Jake

Ashdown CTM 100
#13
Quote by Fisheth24
A WHOLE NEW WORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRLD (Sorry, too much Disney)

Look at Serpentine, Daemoness and Waghorn. They're the three I'd use, Imo.



Wow! I've just had a quick look at the above websites!!!.........bookmarked!

Thanks!!
#14
Dylan will only make you a guitar if your tr00 metal.

I found this:

http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars_detail.asp?stock=11110717134649

Meets every single spec you wanted...

Personally though, I'd get a Suhr Modern speaking from experience.

They are epic.

Block the trem and any of the ones with the Gotoh 510 will do everything you could ever want.

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#15
Quote by Tom 1.0
Dylan will only make you a guitar if your tr00 metal.

I found this:

http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars_detail.asp?stock=11110717134649

Meets every single spec you wanted...

Personally though, I'd get a Suhr Modern speaking from experience.

They are epic.

Block the trem and any of the ones with the Gotoh 510 will do everything you could ever want.


Not heard that one before? Wouldn't be suprised though
Bass Gear:

Mensinger: Speesy
Fender Precision 1989 (CIJ Rosewood)
Fender Steve Harris (CIJ)
Lakland J Sonic 5
Epiphone Explorer
Maruszczyk (custom) Jake

Ashdown CTM 100
#17
Quote by Tom 1.0
Yeah I'd heard that....

Either way, he is crazy money now and his wait tines are mental.

A Ran would be cheaper and quicker.

However, TS I have found your new guitar.

http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars_detail.asp?stock=14062612235619


Don't RAN have wait times of like a year now?

Shur looks nice! If I had the money I'd grab that.
Bass Gear:

Mensinger: Speesy
Fender Precision 1989 (CIJ Rosewood)
Fender Steve Harris (CIJ)
Lakland J Sonic 5
Epiphone Explorer
Maruszczyk (custom) Jake

Ashdown CTM 100
#18
Dylan was 18-36 months depending on spec.

The Crusher stuff is meant to be pretty rapid (in perspective to some custom shops).

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#19
Gee, if you were in SoCal, you could drop by the Carvin factory and order up. Everything you want right there.

Just down the road, Taylor actually has some amazing electrics, and they often have some stunning prototypes sitting around the factory that they'll sell.

Coming back up toward Los Angeles, you could drop by the Suhr factory and order what you like.

On the way back from Suhr, you could drop by WildWest guitars, which has an amazing (and huge) selection of high end (no junk here) Fenders, Suhrs and other seriously nice guitars -- mostly superstratty in nature.

Buncha stores on Sunset, including the flagship Guitar Center and a huge Sam Ash (walking distance from each other). You could drop by Trussart and, with your budget, buy half a guitar. He's in Silverlake. There's Truetone music on Santa Monica, drop by McCabes and then maybe head out to Norm's Rare Guitars to see what celebrity is buying what expensive vintage piece.


Road trip!
#20
Quote by Tom 1.0

Either way, he is crazy money now and his wait tines are mental.


Wow I didn't realise he'd diversified into making forks as well now?
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#22
I realize they are quality guitars, but why do people keep recommending guitars with tremolos when the TS wants a fixed bridge? For that kind of budget, he shouldn't have to buy a guitar he'll be trem-blocking to use.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
#23
Because there aren't any... Unless he goes custom and for £2.5k in the UK you can't guarantee quality.

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#24
A couple of those MacPhersons I linked to were both hardtail and under £2500.

Crimson- guys who have built customs for Robert Fripp- have been known to make guitars under £2500 as well, like this one:
http://crimsonguitars.com/shop/custom-guitars/Hand-made-bubinga-Dissident-guitar

This guy may or may not like to step out from his specialty in Tele-bodies, but...
http://www.stevenscustomguitars.co.uk
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Sep 15, 2014,
#25
I have some pickups from The Creamery in a custom axe ( by an American Luthier) that should be shipping soon. They also do custom guitars of their own. They don't list prices on their website, but the pups I bought were reasonably priced for hand-wound. Might be worth an inquiry.
http://www.creamery-pickups.co.uk/custom-guitars.html#.VBehOWK9KSM

The standard design guitars at Ethos seem to price between £1150-1500, with full custom work going up from there.
http://www.ethosguitars.co.uk/forsale-frameset.htm

Guyton guitars have an excellent rep. The few I've seen for sale would be on the top end of your budget...and that info is from years ago. Unfortunately, he does not list his prices on his website.
http://www.guytonguitars.com/index.php
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Sep 15, 2014,
#26
Quote by Tom 1.0



Sod off Dave.


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Quote by K33nbl4d3
I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

Quote by K33nbl4d3
Presumably because the CCF (Combined Corksniffing Forces) of MLP and Gibson forums would rise up against them, plunging the land into war.

Quote by T00DEEPBLUE
Et tu, br00tz?
#27
And of course, you can shop outside of the UK. I don't know what the tariffs would be like, though.

If you do, take a look at Ruokangas.

www.ruokangas.com
https://reverb.com/marketplace?query=Ruokangas&make%5B%5D=ruokangas
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Sep 16, 2014,
#28
Quote went into Serpentine - and came back waaaay more reasonable than the other chappies, for the same spec, so having my very own custom built baby looks like a very real possibility!

Huzzah!! (etc)
#29
Woot!
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
#30
After many e-mails between myself and the very helpful Matt at Serpentine, the spec for my custom guitar has been finalised.

- 'DC' body shape (double cutaway, curvy super strat).
- Archtop quilted maple on a mahogany body.
- 3 piece (maple & wenge) D shape set neck, natural oiled finish.
- 22 stainless steel jumbo frets on a bound, 25.5" compound radius ebony fretboard.
- 'Reverse' 3-a-side bound headstock, with locking tuners.
- 'Dark tease' (smokey grey / brown) gloss finish (body & headstock).
- 2 x direct mounted alnico Bare Knuckle Nailbomb PUP's (aged nickel covers) with coil tapping via mini switch, and 3 way toggle.
- 1 x master volume & tone.
- Hipshot 6 string fixed bridge.
- Black hardware.

All this to match my personal preferences, and much cheaper than all of the off-the-shelf guitars I was looking at.
I'm placing the order this week.....then the wait begins.

Thanks to Fisheth24 for mentioning Serpentine :-)

I'll keep you posted!
#31
Quote by scott.travis2
After many e-mails between myself and the very helpful Matt at Serpentine, the spec for my custom guitar has been finalised.

- 'DC' body shape (double cutaway, curvy super strat).
- Archtop quilted maple on a mahogany body.
- 3 piece (maple & wenge) D shape set neck, natural oiled finish.
- 22 stainless steel jumbo frets on a bound, 25.5" compound radius ebony fretboard.
- 'Reverse' 3-a-side bound headstock, with locking tuners.
- 'Dark tease' (smokey grey / brown) gloss finish (body & headstock).
- 2 x direct mounted alnico Bare Knuckle Nailbomb PUP's (aged nickel covers) with coil tapping via mini switch, and 3 way toggle.
- 1 x master volume & tone.
- Hipshot 6 string fixed bridge.
- Black hardware.

All this to match my personal preferences, and much cheaper than all of the off-the-shelf guitars I was looking at.
I'm placing the order this week.....then the wait begins.

Thanks to Fisheth24 for mentioning Serpentine :-)

I'll keep you posted!


Hopefully you told him I sent you! Yeah he's really, really good. I've been umming and ahhing about what I want for months now. He's really paitiant
Bass Gear:

Mensinger: Speesy
Fender Precision 1989 (CIJ Rosewood)
Fender Steve Harris (CIJ)
Lakland J Sonic 5
Epiphone Explorer
Maruszczyk (custom) Jake

Ashdown CTM 100
#32
Quote by Fisheth24
Hopefully you told him I sent you! Yeah he's really, really good. I've been umming and ahhing about what I want for months now. He's really paitiant


I will certainly mention you!! See if he gives you discount!

Will he know you by 'Fisheth24'!?!?
#33
Quote by scott.travis2
I will certainly mention you!! See if he gives you discount!

Will he know you by 'Fisheth24'!?!?


Or Andy one of the two
Bass Gear:

Mensinger: Speesy
Fender Precision 1989 (CIJ Rosewood)
Fender Steve Harris (CIJ)
Lakland J Sonic 5
Epiphone Explorer
Maruszczyk (custom) Jake

Ashdown CTM 100