#1
I was thinking of having a go at building the Condor Cab Sim that you can find here: http://www.runoffgroove.com/condor.html

There's a few things I just don't get though. Is it designed to have a pedal plugged in or can I use the speaker output of a valve amp? If it's the latter what ohm rating would be needed?

Also I can only see one output; could this be both used for headphones or going direct into an audio interface?
Last edited by ThrashingDeath at Oct 4, 2014,
#2
Most cab sims are not designed to be used with the power output of a tube amp. The ones that are usually incorporate a load box (whole buncha big resistors).

Most cab sims are designed to go between the preamp section of a guitar amp and a mixer or a power amp of some kind. For example, I have a Carvin Quad-X tube preamp. You have a choice. You can run it into a tube power amp (like a carvin TS100) and into a guitar-type cabinet (like a 4x12, etc.) OR you can run it directly into a recording mixer, a PA mixer or a full-range frequency response powered speaker, like a recording monitor, etc. In this case, since the speakers/amplifier are trying their best to NOT add coloration to your preamp's signal, you have the option of adding a cab sim (it's built into the Carvin Quad-X, but can be external, like the Torpedo C.A.B.) to make it sound is if your preamp were running into a guitar cabinet.
#3
Ah right. Thanks for the help. I'm thinking it's time I just get a modeller if I want good tone through headphones haha.
#4
Well you can build this thing, and then put it into the effects loop, witout pluging it into the return jack. So it would go preamp->simulator->headphones, with the poweramp out of the equation.
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#5
Quote by gorkyporky
Well you can build this thing, and then put it into the effects loop, witout pluging it into the return jack. So it would go preamp->simulator->headphones, with the poweramp out of the equation.


Unfortunately, valve amps really do want a load and do badly without it. So if you can't shut down the power amp portion separately, you still have it producing sound to the speaker.
#6
Quote by ThrashingDeath
Ah right. Thanks for the help. I'm thinking it's time I just get a modeller if I want good tone through headphones haha.


That's why I bought a modeler in the first place. First a tiny Korg Pandora, later a Pod XT.

They're insidious. First headphones. Then you think, "What if I plugged this into the FX return of my amp?" Then, "You know, I get stereo FX if I plug my two powered recording monitors into this thing..." And eventually, "All I really need to do is run a line from this into the PA mixer and get them to give me a monitor..."
#7
Hahah sounds like a plan. I really like the sound of those Vox Tonelab ones. I'll check out the ones you mentioned as well.